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Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
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2nd RID JAM!!
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TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
Thanx, bro!
Davey said:
Thanx, bro!
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
You know, there's really nothing different about this from anything I might grab off a Satch CD.
(Thats a compliment, btw.)
This is a tune I'll listen to more than once.
Oh yeah, where do we find this backing track at? I might take a crack at it, but it sure won't be up to TO's level.
You know, there's really nothing different about this from anything I might grab off a Satch CD.
(Thats a compliment, btw.)
This is a tune I'll listen to more than once.
Oh yeah, where do we find this backing track at? I might take a crack at it, but it sure won't be up to TO's level.
JammerMatt
New member
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
A major over F# minor. I knew the relationship, but never really tried playing major over minor. <<WORLDS ARE COLLIDING, JERRY!!!!!>>>
I agree, those that want to be haters rarely step up to the plate and throw a sample out. The "regulars" seem to be good about constructive criticism, tho. There is good in everything I hear. My stuff, however good or bad, is linked under my sig. It's always a work in progress.
I tried noodling to this jam last night, and I just couldn't get into the groove... couldn't find a nice melody in my head. Plenty of room for wanking, tho.
Must... drink... Hurricane.
A major over F# minor. I knew the relationship, but never really tried playing major over minor. <<WORLDS ARE COLLIDING, JERRY!!!!!>>>
I agree, those that want to be haters rarely step up to the plate and throw a sample out. The "regulars" seem to be good about constructive criticism, tho. There is good in everything I hear. My stuff, however good or bad, is linked under my sig. It's always a work in progress.
I tried noodling to this jam last night, and I just couldn't get into the groove... couldn't find a nice melody in my head. Plenty of room for wanking, tho.
Must... drink... Hurricane.
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
Thanx, Artie! I love Satch, seen him play live many times, ever since "Surfing" came out, tho I've never considered him a direct influence to my playing. More of an inspiration, tho ... he is the master of melodic yet techincal playing; I would also put Ronnie Montrose in that category, tho he's often overlooked ...
ArtieToo said:You know, there's really nothing different about this from anything I might grab off a Satch CD.
(Thats a compliment, btw.)
This is a tune I'll listen to more than once.
Oh yeah, where do we find this backing track at? I might take a crack at it, but it sure won't be up to TO's level.
Thanx, Artie! I love Satch, seen him play live many times, ever since "Surfing" came out, tho I've never considered him a direct influence to my playing. More of an inspiration, tho ... he is the master of melodic yet techincal playing; I would also put Ronnie Montrose in that category, tho he's often overlooked ...
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
That's where your modes come in ... I'll break it down really simply. Again, sorry if you already know this ...
Keys are broken into chords like this:
I - ii - iii - IV - V - vi - vii* - I
So, in the Key of A you have:
AMaj - Bm - C#m - DMaj - EMaj - F#m - G#Dim - AMaj
You can play any of those chords over AMaj and still be in key, tho some will sound weirder than others. For scales, you can start and end on any one of these notes, and they will sound different, depending on what chord is underneath. That's modes, in a nutshell ...
Hurricane?! That's your first mistake ... everyone knows that whiskey is better for guitar playing!!
JammerMatt said:
That's where your modes come in ... I'll break it down really simply. Again, sorry if you already know this ...
Keys are broken into chords like this:
I - ii - iii - IV - V - vi - vii* - I
So, in the Key of A you have:
AMaj - Bm - C#m - DMaj - EMaj - F#m - G#Dim - AMaj
You can play any of those chords over AMaj and still be in key, tho some will sound weirder than others. For scales, you can start and end on any one of these notes, and they will sound different, depending on what chord is underneath. That's modes, in a nutshell ...
Hurricane?! That's your first mistake ... everyone knows that whiskey is better for guitar playing!!
\m/(00)\m/
HeadBanginologist
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
yeah, yeah, yeah. your tired from your trip and it's nto all you'd want ti to be...
BULL****!!!!!
maybe i'll take a try at this backing track..
yeah, yeah, yeah. your tired from your trip and it's nto all you'd want ti to be...
BULL****!!!!!
maybe i'll take a try at this backing track..
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
moom, I was hoping you'd get around to listening to it!
Thanx, guys! (moom + Dooogz)
moom, I was hoping you'd get around to listening to it!
Thanx, guys! (moom + Dooogz)
JammerMatt
New member
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
TO,
I seem to always find myself in that same old natural minor aeolian mode. One time I made an effort to branch out to the other modes, but by the time I learned, say dorian, I had forgotten aeolian. I need to quit work and just play guitar for about a year. My wife will hear nothing of this, tho.
On the topic, could you give me a refresher on harmonizing the major scale? Where in the sequence do the 7th, maj 7ths, min 7ths fall? Is diminished (vii*) still diminished? Do you have a mnemonic device (big college word for "string around your finger") to remember the sequence? I knew at one time, but have forgotten. I could probably look it up somewhere, but that would require me to not be lazy. I just seem to remember that resolving on the harmonized note sometimes gives a cool vibe. Didn't Georgie do that to some degree?
TwilightOdyssey said:
TO,
I seem to always find myself in that same old natural minor aeolian mode. One time I made an effort to branch out to the other modes, but by the time I learned, say dorian, I had forgotten aeolian. I need to quit work and just play guitar for about a year. My wife will hear nothing of this, tho.
On the topic, could you give me a refresher on harmonizing the major scale? Where in the sequence do the 7th, maj 7ths, min 7ths fall? Is diminished (vii*) still diminished? Do you have a mnemonic device (big college word for "string around your finger") to remember the sequence? I knew at one time, but have forgotten. I could probably look it up somewhere, but that would require me to not be lazy. I just seem to remember that resolving on the harmonized note sometimes gives a cool vibe. Didn't Georgie do that to some degree?
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
I sure can. I'm in the middle of editing guitar and drum tracks at the moment, but I will play around with Guitar Pro and throw something up here in about a day's time ... I learned music theory from an old, grouchy Italian guy (that happens to be a legend in Jazz circles) by the name of Dennis Sandoli. I learned the old fashioned way, thru forced memorization. But, I'll see what I can cook up with Guitar Pro for ya ...
JammerMatt said:
I sure can. I'm in the middle of editing guitar and drum tracks at the moment, but I will play around with Guitar Pro and throw something up here in about a day's time ... I learned music theory from an old, grouchy Italian guy (that happens to be a legend in Jazz circles) by the name of Dennis Sandoli. I learned the old fashioned way, thru forced memorization. But, I'll see what I can cook up with Guitar Pro for ya ...
JammerMatt
New member
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
I don't want to pull you away from creating more TO music. I dug it up:
I maj7
ii min7
iii min7
IV maj7
V 7
vi min7
vii min7b5
My teacher of two years was a jazz guy also. He took it to me old school also. From do-re-mi through modes
-Matt
I don't want to pull you away from creating more TO music. I dug it up:
I maj7
ii min7
iii min7
IV maj7
V 7
vi min7
vii min7b5
My teacher of two years was a jazz guy also. He took it to me old school also. From do-re-mi through modes
-Matt
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
Your chord chart is correct, btw ...
So, the question is: how do you make those into 9 chords?
Your chord chart is correct, btw ...
So, the question is: how do you make those into 9 chords?
JammerMatt
New member
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
Okay, I'll bite. Never got to 9ths. Shoot.
By the way, I got to listening to "Defiler." It took a few spins to grow on me, but that's usually the way it is for me. The beginning 2 minutes or so are reminiscent of "Back in the Village" which is a tune that I played over and over again back in the day. Then the song gets super strong around 2:00 where you get the tempo change, and whole change of mood. Things start getting real melodic at 2:30 or so. This part is stuck in my head now since the ride in to work. The change at 5:00 is real strong... the headbanging section. From there out I'm digging it too. Nice work.
A side-note. I hadn't noticed till this morning that on "Endless Days" there's a great little bass run right at the beginning. Sounds like a fast moving stream over rocks. Very cool. I'm a fan of lead bass.
So, is this a demo you're shopping around for a contract? I look forward to a full-on CD.
Okay, I'll bite. Never got to 9ths. Shoot.
By the way, I got to listening to "Defiler." It took a few spins to grow on me, but that's usually the way it is for me. The beginning 2 minutes or so are reminiscent of "Back in the Village" which is a tune that I played over and over again back in the day. Then the song gets super strong around 2:00 where you get the tempo change, and whole change of mood. Things start getting real melodic at 2:30 or so. This part is stuck in my head now since the ride in to work. The change at 5:00 is real strong... the headbanging section. From there out I'm digging it too. Nice work.
A side-note. I hadn't noticed till this morning that on "Endless Days" there's a great little bass run right at the beginning. Sounds like a fast moving stream over rocks. Very cool. I'm a fan of lead bass.
So, is this a demo you're shopping around for a contract? I look forward to a full-on CD.
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: 2nd RID JAM!!
Okay, two things:
9th chords:
Very easy! If you look at a scale as being 1 - 13 as it ascends, the octave is the 8th note in the scale ... that's why classical and jazz guys abbreviate octave as 8ve.
So, if you're looking at C Maj 7, you have
1 - 3 - 5 -7
C - E - G - B
Since the root note (1) and the Octave (8) are the same note, all you have to do slide the 1/8 up one note to 2/9, and you have C Maj 9:
9 - 3 - 5 - 7
D - E - G - B
Very easy to do!
As for the other stuff:
Yes, there's a bass solo in the intro to Endless Days. The solo for the actual album is even better!
Yeah, the demo you have was the one I used to shop to labels. Once we secured the deal with Adrenaline, that became moot. We're now using it for radio play + magazine reviews. As of right now, I have about 20 new reviews to post on the site. We've been reviewed in just about every major metal publication in the world over the past 8 months: Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles, Metal Maniacs, Rock Brigade, Rock Hard, as well as the a score of metal web zines: Metal 2 Infinity, peacedogman, Metal Integral ... more than I can count.
Interesting side point to this side pointD): We're being played on the radio in over 20 countries right now, and we were in the American Top 100 for radio play (for Metal/Hard Rock) for 10 weeks! We just slipped out of the top 100 last week 
Okay, two things:
9th chords:
Very easy! If you look at a scale as being 1 - 13 as it ascends, the octave is the 8th note in the scale ... that's why classical and jazz guys abbreviate octave as 8ve.
So, if you're looking at C Maj 7, you have
1 - 3 - 5 -7
C - E - G - B
Since the root note (1) and the Octave (8) are the same note, all you have to do slide the 1/8 up one note to 2/9, and you have C Maj 9:
9 - 3 - 5 - 7
D - E - G - B
Very easy to do!
As for the other stuff:
Yes, there's a bass solo in the intro to Endless Days. The solo for the actual album is even better!
Yeah, the demo you have was the one I used to shop to labels. Once we secured the deal with Adrenaline, that became moot. We're now using it for radio play + magazine reviews. As of right now, I have about 20 new reviews to post on the site. We've been reviewed in just about every major metal publication in the world over the past 8 months: Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles, Metal Maniacs, Rock Brigade, Rock Hard, as well as the a score of metal web zines: Metal 2 Infinity, peacedogman, Metal Integral ... more than I can count.
Interesting side point to this side point
D): We're being played on the radio in over 20 countries right now, and we were in the American Top 100 for radio play (for Metal/Hard Rock) for 10 weeks! We just slipped out of the top 100 last week
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