335's...Do you like the later years?

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I've got a 2011 that is spectacular. I got lucky and someone wanted my 339, so we traded and this one is light, airy, and just feels right. Just one of those special guitars that we sometimes get lucky enough to come across. Naturally...I'm looking for another one...cuz...I'm stupid like that.
I've been checking out the 16's, 17's, and 18's with their thisBuckers and thatBuckers, but I usually change PUP's anyway (I'm here...right?), so my question for you folks is...
Given the choice between the early 2000's (00-05), and the later (06-12), and the latest group (13-18)...what do you like, what don't you care for, and why.
It's a given that any one individual instrument can be a dog or golden, and 335's are prone to variation more then many, but still...what's yer take?
 
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I have a government series 335 that I dropped Burstbuckers into and it sounds great. I've had no real issues with mine and I absolutely love it.
 
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I have a government series 335 that I dropped Burstbuckers into and it sounds great. I've had no real issues with mine and I absolutely love it.

Appreciate the response Chadd. I haven't been able to get out to try any of the newer ones...just seen the usual YouTube videos, and they are always gushing...no matter what guitar they're reviewing.
 
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I have a 2010 Faded and like it - though it has a flatter profile (60s?) neck than I’d prefer - only really realized that over time.

I never felt the 57 classics it came with, so it currently has PRails in Triple Shot rings. - though I’ve been thinking of going with Seth Lovers - feeling like I want more of a classic 335 tone (even though the current setup makes it a very versatile tone beast!)


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All those years produced good Gibsons, but I'm leery of 2012 - 2015 because it was a rough spell for them with the govt raid etc.....alternate fretboards, quality control, and brass nuts, although 335's may have been least affected compared to other models.
 
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My 335 is a Fatneck model built in 2007 before the model was officially introduced in 2008:

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It's basically a Gibson Memphis '58 reissue; the neck on it is gigantic like an R6/R7. It came stock with '57 Classics, but I redid all of the electronics with a set of '59s, 500K pots, and .015/.022 Orange Drops wired 50s style. The '59s are an improvement, but they're still a bit bright and thin so I'm going to try a WLH set next. I also added the Bigsby / Vibramate.

If you're looking for another one, be sure to try before you buy if at all possible. The QC at Gibson's Nashville plant is a joke and it has been for years; they ship lots of guitars that should never leave the building. Luckily Gibson moved semi-hollow production to Memphis in the early 2000s, and their QC was substantially better. Unfortunately Gibson closed that plant in 2016 or 2017, so your best bet for recent guitars is Custom Shop. They make a nice guitar, but expect to be a hefty premium for it.

TL;DR
Either of your first two groups should be fine for Gibson Memphis. Not many semi-hollows are made in Nashville, but I'd avoid anything made in Nashville after the early 2000s unless you can play it first. Gibson Custom Shop should be fine from just about any time period, but expect to pay extra for it. I would also avoid anything non-Custom after 2013 or 2014 unless you can play it first.
 
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Okay, so...I found one and I'm taking a shot...
2003-4 59 Reissue...long pickguard, Klusons, and a fat neck.
What do you all know about this guitar. I was able to see a video of the guitar and get an in-hand, so...pretty confident but I know little about the model.
Fill me in:fingersx:
 
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Okay, so...I found one and I'm taking a shot...
2003-4 59 Reissue...long pickguard, Klusons, and a fat neck.
What do you all know about this guitar. I was able to see a video of the guitar and get an in-hand, so...pretty confident but I know little about the model.
Fill me in:fingersx:

It's essentially the Custom Shop version of what I have, and the 335 I wanted before the Memphis 335 Fatneck was introduced. If the price is right and there aren't any issues (or they've been fixed), I'd say go for it. :bigthumb:
 
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Ex+ cond. What would be a good $?

I honestly don't know the market well enough to say for sure. I've seen 59RIs selling as low as $2500-2800 and some as high as $3800-4200. Perhaps someone who knows that particular year range a bit better can chime in?
 
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I honestly don't know the market well enough to say for sure. I've seen 59RIs selling as low as $2500-2800 and some as high as $3800-4200. Perhaps someone who knows that particular year range a bit better can chime in?


Serial # is A93XXX and is only inside...not on the headstock. I think that means 2003. Does anyone know what the sn says about where it was made? I don't have it until next week, so not too much more I can determine.
 
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Serial # is A93XXX and is only inside...not on the headstock. I think that means 2003. Does anyone know what the sn says about where it was made? I don't have it until next week, so not too much more I can determine.

Gibson only has one Custom Shop, and it's across the street from their USA Nashville plant. The lack of a serial on the headstock points to a Custom Shop instrument, Memphis semi-hollows like mine have a serial on the sticker inside in addition to the back of the headstock. That number also appears to be for a '59 reissue ES-335 from 2003.

One other thing to keep in mind is that the '59 RI you're looking at may have a far bigger neck than your current 335. The only Gibsons I've played with a neck similar to my 335 or the CS '59 RI are the R4, R6, R7, & R8 Les Pauls with the baseball bat neck. I have a LP Standard from 2001 with their '59 rounded profile (bigger than the post-2002 50s neck), and my 335 is substantially larger. If I had a micrometer I'd measure it, but unfortunately I do not.
 
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Gibson only has one Custom Shop, and it's across the street from their USA Nashville plant. The lack of a serial on the headstock points to a Custom Shop instrument, Memphis semi-hollows like mine have a serial on the sticker inside in addition to the back of the headstock. That number also appears to be for a '59 reissue ES-335 from 2003.

One other thing to keep in mind is that the '59 RI you're looking at may have a far bigger neck than your current 335. The only Gibsons I've played with a neck similar to my 335 or the CS '59 RI are the R4, R6, R7, & R8 Les Pauls with the baseball bat neck. I have a LP Standard from 2001 with their '59 rounded profile (bigger than the post-2002 50s neck), and my 335 is substantially larger. If I had a micrometer I'd measure it, but unfortunately I do not.

Well...fortunately for me...I like all kinds of necks (except really thin shredder style). The 339 I traded for my current 335 was a 59 fat neck and I loved that one. I have a Goldtop and a couple LP Studios with fat 50's necks too. So...I'm good...either way. Unless someone puts an 80's Ibanez Sabre neck on there...I'm cool with it.
 
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Appreciate the response Chadd. I haven't been able to get out to try any of the newer ones...just seen the usual YouTube videos, and they are always gushing...no matter what guitar they're reviewing.

My feeling is that you're likely to find whatever it is you are looking to find. If you're looking for a great sounding and playing guitar, you will find one. If you look for imperfections, you will likely find that, too.

Most of the Heritage 535s that I've tried have been pretty good, too.
 
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I hear that...agree 100%. As a musician, I find that if I'm "on," I can play any guitar and find my voice. Conversely...when I suck...59 Les Paul, Sadowsky, whatever...it's world class suckage. I have little doubt that this is a fine instrument. Also agree that Heritage does make some beauties, but I've never warmed to them.
However...as a guitar lover,collector, and someone who mods and builds...I'm interested in details. So...any thoughts on what was asking about?
 
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I've always loved 335s and brethren. Back in the early 70's I jumped all over a year-old used Long Neck 330. That was a fantastic guitar, but I ran into some financial trouble and had to sell it. I regret it to this day. I also invested in a ES-150DCN, which I was able to hang onto. Should have sold it; that guitar had problems with intonation and feedback. I finally traded it off after six years of frustration.

I came back to a 335 in the mid-90s, with a '70s MIJ Hondo 935HC (a clone). I bought it cheap, and it's doesn't have the quality of the Gibson, but it wasn't a crap guitar either. The hardware is good, as are the (DMZ?) pickups...though the rest of the electronics suck. Even then, it is a very good, well playing guitar, and very pretty with a mahogany-lam body. But the neck...OMG...one of the best feeling necks I've ever played. It's a project now, one I'll probably never complete. :(

In 2003 took a risk on a used MIK Ibanez Artstar AS-120TR that I found on E-bay after playing a couple in the stores. The neck is very similar to the Gibson 1960 Slim-Taper. The quality of the guitar is a step up from the Hondo...hell, it's probably better made than the Gibsons! I love the vintage PAF tones of the Super '58 pickups!

But, I wanted a Gibson, and now I have three. The first one I bought is was a used 2006 in Antique Sunburst. Beautiful flametop finish, and the tone and playability is everything you'd expect from a guitar in this price range. The neck on this one is the Slim-Taper, but it has a slight asymmetry to it.

The next one was a 2007 in Blonde. Just gorgeous! This one has a slightly fatter neck than my others, but it is symmetrical.

The last one has quite a story. I first saw it at a display they had at the Spring 2013 Seattle Guitar Show. I was immediate attracted to the Flametop Vintage Sunburst finish. It was a good price, until I realized that it had a headstock repair...a brand new 2012 guitar that had been damaged in the store. Hmmmm...what to do? That guitar was really calling my name!

I went back home to Portland and talked it over with the boss...she gave me the okay to pursue a deal. Took a few phone calls, and I made an offer, and explained my logic behind the offer. A week later it was in my hands...GC gave me a fantastic deal. I did take it to my luthier to do some cosmetic clean up on the repair, and it was worth it. I love all of my guitars, but this one has become a favorite. I love the tone, and it has the best neck of the three. And supposedly the 2012s are crap. Go figure. She really begged me to take her home, and I am so glad I did.

I remember back when Larry Carlton endorsed the Yamaha SA-2000. He did a Guitar Player Magazine interview and said that the Yamaha was a great guitar. But when you find a special 335...they are really special. Lifetime keepers. And he was right. The Artstar is a VERY good guitar, like the Yamaha. But there's something just so special about these three Gibsons I have. They are hard to put down, and lately I've been using them instead of my Les Pauls. Such a versatile guitar, and perfect for a lot of the things I do. And the one with the headstock repair might be the best of the bunch.

I wouldn't worry about vintage...judge each guitar individually.

I've played many 335s and brothers over the years. Liked some, hated others...and some inspired true LUST. Many of the Heritage 535 and 555s I've played had unacceptable finish flaws. I've never bonded with a Guild Starfire or the double-cut Country Gentleman. The new D'Angelicos leave me cold. I hear the Collings is great...but they are even spendier than the Gibsons. Never seen one in a store.

I have way too many guitars as it is, but I have to tell you that if another great 335/345/355 popped up at a good price...

Like I said...LUST!

Congrats on the new guitar.

Bill
 
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I guess at this point I've been through about a hundred guitars, and I've learned that there are players and lookers and both. Players I grab if it's feasible at the time. Lookers...you can have 'em. Doesn't matter if it's $5 or $5,000...I don't want art...I want to play. Both...I do whatever I have to do to get it...short of fiscal irresponsibly...mostly. Fenders are much easier to turn into players if they're not quite there. Gibson...especially semis...much more difficult to work on (for me anyway).
After hearing this guitar and asking a lot of questions (I feel like I know what to ask), I'm taking my shot.
Just cuz you brought it up...my favorite 335-style (currently playing) Ibanez AS-100 (S58's), AS-103(59's/Grovers/Tonepros), AS-120 (S58s), Epi 62 Sheraton(Gibson miniHBs), and of course the 2011 335. All different flavors of special. The one thing they have in common...they feel great to play and sound dynamite regardless of PUPS. Super smooth...no dead spots. I can change PUPS and hardware
...can't change that neck. The 103 is probably the most unique, as it is not as hollow as the others. Has a tone sort of in between a 335 and 336...a nice change-up.
Anyway...good discussion...I'm enjoying it! I will holla on Monday when the subject of this thread arrives.
 
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I guess at this point I've been through about a hundred guitars, and I've learned that there are players and lookers and both. Players I grab if it's feasible at the time. Lookers...you can have 'em. Doesn't matter if it's $5 or $5,000...I don't want art...I want to play. Both...I do whatever I have to do to get it...short of fiscal irresponsibly...mostly. Fenders are much easier to turn into players if they're not quite there. Gibson...especially semis...much more difficult to work on (for me anyway).
I couldn't agree more on all of those points. Good luck, hope this one works out for you.
 
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Pictures tomorrow!
Only got to unpack and play for about twenty minutes, but...wow! I love that smell!

Case says: Gibson Custom (Black/Gold/Dk purple inside).
Orange Label says: Nashville, hang-tags say Historic. Don't have the COA...may come later...I don't care really.
It's super clean.
Board is very dark and tight-grained, and not dry at all. Brazilian maybe? Anyway...it's purty.
Frets show very little wear.
No chips...no dings...it was sold as "Very Good" but I think they underestimated by a good bit.
I didn't weigh it, but seller say right at 8lbs. Feels lighter but semis can be deceiving. I should weigh my Memphis...I think it's lighter, but???
1-The only thing that really matters...plays like muthaf***a Fat neck just like my 339 had...low action (might raise it) but no buzz. Very detailed and loud unplugged...sustains nicely.

2-Sounds very sweet, airy, and vintage-y as you would expect. I did not have time to pull the PUP's, but I can see the braided wire. Which Gibson PUPs...who knows? I'll get in there when I can to look, but not a priority (plus...Gibson's still tough to ID even when you can see them). I'll have to play it for quite a while before I think about whether it would like another set. Some guitars tell me that from the moment I plug 'em in.

3-I can see Bumblebees inside...maybe that's a clue for someone? I generally like .015n/.022b, but again...it's happy...so...I'm not likely to mess with it.

The amps...Ceriatone Overtone Special, Fender 65 DRRI and Blues Jr. Blacface mod, Suhr Badger 18, Winfield Thomas Winfield. Have only gotten to try the Deluxe Rev so far, but if it sounds good through that...the others will be fine.

That's the lastest for those who are interested. If that gives any insight into year or PUPs...holla.
 
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Mine is an 06. It has whole lotta humbuckers, a bigsby and the fat neck. It is a heavy guitar, but it sure sounds good.
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