59 Bassman anyone? Marshall Plexi?

[Lewguitar]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=3716300031&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

This amp is virtually the same circuit and handwired! Might be Hammond Transformers too. These amps are a steal! Lew

 

[Scott_F]

Re: 59 Bassman anyone? Marshall Plexi?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=3716300031&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

This amp is virtually the same circuit and handwired! Might be Hammond Transformers too. These amps are a steal! Lew

I was watching that one lew. thanks for alerting the rest of the free world.

Any ways, I'm about to grab an old bandmaster or traynor and have it modded by Andy Fuchs. His Dumble OD Special amps are pretty darn sweet.


He takes the chassis, cab and trannies and then reworks the rest of the amp, essentially stripping out the rest of the amp and starting over. Very cool results.

 

[Lewguitar]

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I was watching that one lew. thanks for alerting the rest of the free world.

Oops! :smack: Just trying to keep it from going to China!

Dan Torres, who take alot of heat, is the man who first wrote about those Traynors. They're cool amps. They don't have the old Triad transformers of course...but if they're Hammond they are very, very good transformers.

Lew

 

[Closed Eye]

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The same as a Bassman?

For that price?!?!?

And there's only 5 hours left?

*dies*

 

[Lewguitar]

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Here's some info on the Traynor YBA1 Bassmaster amps from Weber VST: Amps N More BBS:

In terms of the "differences" in the Traynor Bassman line, I'd only add that the Bassman YBA1 models are all nice with the older models getting better money. It's the YBA1-A or YBA1A that was a later model that doesn't revert to the older Marshall circuit well. Just too hot -- more powerful model.

Most popular: early (mid '60s) with rectifier & choke.

Followed by: ss rectified with choke (circa '66 to '68)

And then: ss rectified & no choke (circa '69 to '71)

Lew

 

[Closed Eye]

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What is a "choke"?

 

[Lewguitar]

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So Scott, Are you going to buy this one? If so, speak up! I'll bet the other guys would hold off for ya. I will. Lew

 

[captain cavman]

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I just bought a JTM45 head and it cost me 800$ new !

This head seems to be the same for 130$ !!! Crazy ! :yell:

 

[Lewguitar]

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I just bought a JTM45 head and it cost me 800$ new !

This head seems to be the same for 130$ !!! Crazy ! :yell:

Very similar Fabien...but the transformers are the heart and soul of an amp and the Hammond transformers in the Traynor are excellant but not the same as those in your Marshall. So the tone will not be identical. Lew

 

[Hoss]

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i can definitely imagine some sweet Heartbreaker tones coming out of that...?!?!

 

[mrid]

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What is a "choke"?

"a coil of low resistance and high inductance used in electrical circuits to pass direct current and attenuate alternating current"

Think of it as a filter.

 

[Stevo]

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So Scott, Are you going to buy this one? If so, speak up! I'll bet the other guys would hold off for ya. I will. Lew

Yes - Scott if you don't want it then I am going to bid on it
Speak up.. heh heh

 

[Closed Eye]

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"a coil of low resistance and high inductance used in electrical circuits to pass direct current and attenuate alternating current"

Think of it as a filter.

Thanks for answering my question!

So are there worlds of difference between the choke and no choke Traynors? Or is it more of a collector trivia/preference type thing?

 

[Gearjoneser]

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The fact that the seller knows what he has, and has told everyone, makes it harder to snag at that price. Let's see if the price jumps at the last minute. If you guys want it, you'd better throw out a high proxy bid a couple minutes before the auction ends.
Make sure your computer's time is set to exact time. I lost a few last minute auctions that way. Sucked.

One question for ya Lew...What are the circuit differences between mid 60's Bassman
heads, as opposed to late 50's Tweed Bassmans? They sound way different to me.
That's why Bassman heads go for $400, while Bassman combos go for $5000.
How different are they? I haven't checked any schematics recently.

 

[TheMist]

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I think I would rather have an old Bassman. They are dirt cheap on ebay.

 

[mrid]

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I believe these are PTP, correct? I took a look inside an old Traynor when I was cleaning it out, and the wiring is very neat.

 

[jmv]

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I think I would rather have an old Bassman. They are dirt cheap on ebay.

well, it depends on which version of the bassmans you are talking about... the silverface heads can be found for cheap, and the blackface for a bit more, but those are completely different than the tweed models...

And i think this amp is supposed to be like the tweed bassmans, because of the references to 'mid' and 'presence', which were not included in the piggyback versions.... well, the 'brown' models had a presence knob, but no mid. So if this is a TWEED bassman circuit, it is MUCH cheaper than any tweed bassman you'll be looking at on ebay, i garuantee.

 

[kevlar3000]

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I was watching that one lew. thanks for alerting the rest of the free world.

Any ways, I'm about to grab an old bandmaster or traynor and have it modded by Andy Fuchs. His Dumble OD Special amps are pretty darn sweet.


He takes the chassis, cab and trannies and then reworks the rest of the amp, essentially stripping out the rest of the amp and starting over. Very cool results.

There is no need to gut one of those amps. They are loaded with the same mustards the Plexi has and with a few minor tweaks you have a late 60s PTP Marshall for under 300.00. You can start by just changing the volumes from 4 meg to 1 meg. They are spectacular amps, true classics IMO and I have no idea why Fuchs would want to redo an amp that is already near perfection. Mine can hang with the best of em, plop a .68 across V2 change your volume and get ready for a big grin. They are the real deal.

 

[Lewguitar]

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One question for ya Lew...What are the circuit differences between mid 60's Bassman
heads, as opposed to late 50's Tweed Bassmans? They sound way different to me.
That's why Bassman heads go for $400, while Bassman combos go for $5000.
How different are they? I haven't checked any schematics recently.

They are extremely differant preamp designs. The tweed '59 5F6-A Bassman has the cathode follower design copied by Jim Marshall which give those amps thier "crunch". The silverface and blackface Bassman amps are more like a Super Reverb or Bandmaster ( but without reverb or vibrato )...and lack the cathode follower design. They sound nothing like a tweed 1959 5F6-A Bassman! The output section is similar in both designs tho.