'59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

Phat cat on neck. Swapped mags to a5 polished and that's a keeper. Also have bridge phat cat but even after a couple mag swaps still sounds too thin and nasal. I'm inclined to get a pg for the bridge and get a 250k push pull pot for coil split. What do you think?
 
Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

Which is better depends on the wood and personal taste, but PG sounds fatter than the 59, albeit with a lot of sizzle up top.
 
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thanks for the input. What about coil splitting on the PG? Is it worth the trouble?
 
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"Which is better depends on the wood and personal taste"

hum, here's what I found about the woods.............

Woods
Body maple (laminated)
Neck maple
Fretboard rosewood

Not an expert. All I know the neck phat cat sounds great and punchy. I need to roll back tone almost all the way on the bridge phat cat. Sound is also very good with switch on mid position (both pups), is actually a bit less punch this way (good for rythm and some leads)...............but the bridge pup alone is too thin, and kind of nasal.
 
Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

phat cat in the neck with a5 is very good. Both the 59 and PG would sound great but I think the PG maybe able to cover more ground with the phat neck than the 59 with the phat cat. I think the the phat cat would compliment the PG better.
I wouldn't bother coil splitting but to each their own. The PG is around 8k so if you split it, you are at 4k. You have a single coil in the phat cat which will sound way better than the pg split.
 
Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

Even fatter in the bridge would be a Seth Lover IMO. I find them warmer than a PG, but with a great rock and roll attitude. They have a nice, raw, openness to them without the upper mid range spike I dislike in the PG(b).
 
Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

I don't find a "spike" in the PG, but agree that the Seth may be a bit fatter than either the PG or the '59.

I also wouldn't bother with the split coil for the PG. All you get is thin and weak.
 
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Thanks for the input guys. The only reason I was considering coil splitting on the PG is because right now (with my thin sounding bridge phat cat) I really like how it sounds with BOTH pups for rhythm. Sometimes the neck cat on its own is kinda too punchy. Not sure what will happen when I replace the bridge for a PG or a Seth, so I would not want to lose that option. Any suggestions?
 
Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

Wire for parallel rather than split. Its a little more bassy and punchy but hum cancelling still. I've always found parallel more usable than split.
 
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PARALLEL WIRING

Was looking at the wiring diagrams seymour duncan has here and they use the tone pot for the push/pull and parallel wiring. Was always thinking in having the push/pull in the volume pot. Is there a differnce?
 
Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

The '59 neck sounds very very good in an Epi Dot. I've had one in that position for 5 years now. It's got a clear almost acoustic kind of sound played clean, and sounds kinda like Pearl Jam's Yellow Ledbetter with some light distortion.

There's a difference with parallel wiring . . . the pickup loses a ton of bass and a little volume.
 
Re: '59 or Pearly Gates for bridge on Epi Dot

GuitarStv said:
The '59 neck sounds very very good in an Epi Dot. I've had one in that position for 5 years now. It's got a clear almost acoustic kind of sound played clean, and sounds kinda like Pearl Jam's Yellow Ledbetter with some light distortion.

There's a difference with parallel wiring . . . the pickup loses a ton of bass and a little volume.
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In parallel, the ohms effectively drop down to only 25% of full HB (coil cut is 50%). For a PG, that puts you at around 2K ohms, which is anemic. I just don't see parallel as a viable option for a bridge PAF.

+1 for '59B or a Seth. I prefer my '59B's with either two 250K's or an UOA5.
 
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Ok, let me get this straight....... most agree there's no point in splitting or parallel wiring PG's, Seth's or 59's?
 
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