7 string guitars

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: 7 string guitars

In the time I've spent with my 7-strings, I've come to the conclusion that unless you're using it to also do covers of 6-string songs, it would probably be best to simply stick with a 6-string and go with thicker strings and a lower tuning. If you continually add lower and lower-toned strings so that you're encroaching on the bass guitar's territory, then the bass has to drop down to the drums' territory, and you end up needing a ton of power to push those lower freqs live, as well as compression leveling to make recordings audible. Not to mention finding a pair of speakers (or earbuds) that can accurately reproduce the recording on the consumer-side of things.

Obviously that's from a Metal perspective. With Jazz, which is not going to rely as much on distortion and chugga-jigga-juggas, you can drop in a lower-tuned interval and keep things interesting.

However, there's no denying the target market for extended-range guitars these days is indeed the Metal crowd, so it's all going to be about the jigga-jugga-wuggas.

Riffing on a low-tuned standard-scale 6-string worked just fine for Black Sabbath; I can't see how it wouldn't work just fine for anyone else.

 

[InbredJunk]

Re: 7 string guitars

I don't know about anyone else, but I play mainly in 3 tunings. E standard, drop d and b. Having a seventh string means that I don't have to switch guitars at all while jamming to my favorites. And, I don't think there is anything wrong with chugging along on the seventh string. Alot of great songs were wrote like that. And sure, you can tune down. I've done it for years along with countless others. Why not buy a guitar where you don't have to?

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[frostopsy]

Re: 7 string guitars

I don't know about anyone else, but I play mainly in 3 tunings. E standard, drop d and b. Having a seventh string means that I don't have to switch guitars at all while jamming to my favorites. And, I don't think there is anything wrong with chugging along on the seventh string. Alot of great songs were wrote like that. And sure, you can tune down. I've done it for years along with countless others. Why not buy a guitar where you don't have to?

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Did you just come up with a reason to buy just one guitar instead of three? Blasphemy!!!

 

[KNUCKLHEAD]

Re: 7 string guitars

All in all it's not bad + yea I've heard way worse pickups . Basswood always sucks but it'
s one of the reasons I bought it ~ to change body & p'ups

 

[InbredJunk]

Re: 7 string guitars

Everything I've read says it's a poplar body. I wonder if yours is different than mine?

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[Johnny the Kid]

Re: 7 string guitars

In the time I've spent with my 7-strings, I've come to the conclusion that unless you're using it to also do covers of 6-string songs, it would probably be best to simply stick with a 6-string and go with thicker strings and a lower tuning. If you continually add lower and lower-toned strings so that you're encroaching on the bass guitar's territory, then the bass has to drop down to the drums' territory, and you end up needing a ton of power to push those lower freqs live, as well as compression leveling to make recordings audible. Not to mention finding a pair of speakers (or earbuds) that can accurately reproduce the recording on the consumer-side of things.

Obviously that's from a Metal perspective. With Jazz, which is not going to rely as much on distortion and chugga-jigga-juggas, you can drop in a lower-tuned interval and keep things interesting.

However, there's no denying the target market for extended-range guitars these days is indeed the Metal crowd, so it's all going to be about the jigga-jugga-wuggas.

Riffing on a low-tuned standard-scale 6-string worked just fine for Black Sabbath; I can't see how it wouldn't work just fine for anyone else.

Because on a six string, when you start to dip into those lower ranges, you generally lose the higher range as well. Chugging on a low B is fun and all, but don't forget soloing and a lot of shredders love their high ranges. Now you can do something like Mastodon or Periphery (Periphery does still use seven strings on a lot of songs and 8's on a few) do where you tune AGCFAD and get into the seven string low range and still have those higher strings, but I find that it ruins traditional chording for myself and I also love having the fifth in those low power chords, which is something you can lose.

I also find this to be flawed logic. Black Sabbath also got by just fine with a vocalist, one guitarist, one bassist, and a drummer. Does that mean that any band with any more members is suddenly less valid because they don't follow the same pattern as Sabbath?

 

[KNUCKLHEAD]

Re: 7 string guitars

You should check out "Seven String" forum for more info. I'm a member over there but under a different username. They can give you some good advice on what to look for. ;>)/

Nah , I think we need more 7 Talk Right Here

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: 7 string guitars

Because on a six string, when you start to dip into those lower ranges, you generally lose the higher range as well. Chugging on a low B is fun and all, but don't forget soloing and a lot of shredders love their high ranges. Now you can do something like Mastodon or Periphery (Periphery does still use seven strings on a lot of songs and 8's on a few) do where you tune AGCFAD and get into the seven string low range and still have those higher strings, but I find that it ruins traditional chording for myself and I also love having the fifth in those low power chords, which is something you can lose.

I still see it as not letting go of the past. Embrace the future and move to the lower tunings, and yes, leave the ultra-highs out of it. It doesn't invalidate the guitar solo.
You're still making the same patterns, just at a lower tuning.

I also find this to be flawed logic. Black Sabbath also got by just fine with a vocalist, one guitarist, one bassist, and a drummer. Does that mean that any band with any more members is suddenly less valid because they don't follow the same pattern as Sabbath?

This is the "executing J-walkers" extrapolation, and that is entirely on you.

 

[KNUCKLHEAD]

Re: 7 string guitars

Everything I've read says it's a poplar body. I wonder if yours is different than mine?

Your probably correct but I dont care for either , I bought it to drop the neck in a Silver Maple body from one of our trees cut down in july 15 . Will probably do the project sometime in 17 if I finish a 6 string i've had in the works for a Long time .