78 Custom
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the guy who invented fire
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Re: 78 Custom
A 78 is a 9k pickup...a Seth is around 8 and the PG is around 8 and a quater to 8 and a half...
You can not hear more power in 1k or less what you do get is a thicker midrange and maybe a little more crunch and compression...
A 9k Seth or PG will not sound like a 78 because the wind is differnet...a 9k Seth sounds like a stock Seth with a little thicker midrange and a litle more compression...same for a PG...
I tried a 78 once in a 58 reissue LP...great sound, not really the VH1 sound unless you are looking for it and even then in a LP it was a little differnet.
Compared to another 58 reissue LP with Antiquities they were similar in ways (both are an Alnico II PAF clone) but different as well...the Ant is more open and bell like where the 78 is a little more aggressive, more midrange heavy and more compressed sounding.
If you want a slightly hotter PAF the 78 is a great choice and unless you drop it in a Strat, plugged into a Plexi cranked to 10 and try you're not gonna get the VH thing...and even then unless you are trying your ass off you might still not get there!
A 78 is a 9k pickup...a Seth is around 8 and the PG is around 8 and a quater to 8 and a half...
You can not hear more power in 1k or less what you do get is a thicker midrange and maybe a little more crunch and compression...
A 9k Seth or PG will not sound like a 78 because the wind is differnet...a 9k Seth sounds like a stock Seth with a little thicker midrange and a litle more compression...same for a PG...
I tried a 78 once in a 58 reissue LP...great sound, not really the VH1 sound unless you are looking for it and even then in a LP it was a little differnet.
Compared to another 58 reissue LP with Antiquities they were similar in ways (both are an Alnico II PAF clone) but different as well...the Ant is more open and bell like where the 78 is a little more aggressive, more midrange heavy and more compressed sounding.
If you want a slightly hotter PAF the 78 is a great choice and unless you drop it in a Strat, plugged into a Plexi cranked to 10 and try you're not gonna get the VH thing...and even then unless you are trying your ass off you might still not get there!
Re: 78 Custom
Thanks for the great reply. Answered most of my questions.
Is it? I mean are they really different winds or just wound more or less depending on the type pickup?
Thanks for the great reply. Answered most of my questions.
Is it? I mean are they really different winds or just wound more or less depending on the type pickup?
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: 78 Custom
They really are differnet winds...
You can try a PG, Seth, PG, Ant, 59...even to a degree an Alnico II Pro...all are PAF winds and all around the same DC but all of them have really differnet sounds and feels.
They really are differnet winds...
You can try a PG, Seth, PG, Ant, 59...even to a degree an Alnico II Pro...all are PAF winds and all around the same DC but all of them have really differnet sounds and feels.
Got_tone?
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Re: 78 Custom
+1 to all that TGWIF has posted. Some of those p'ups will sound thinner, warmer, brighter, compressed, and etc when compared to each other. It's hard to imagine considering they're all around 8-9K. You really have to put the winds and magnets into the equation. I've owned a '78 which read 8.8k and I currently have a Custom Shop PG that's wound at 8.6K. They're still two completely different p'ups.
If you're looking for a stronger PAF, the '78 would be an excellent choice.
+1 to all that TGWIF has posted. Some of those p'ups will sound thinner, warmer, brighter, compressed, and etc when compared to each other. It's hard to imagine considering they're all around 8-9K. You really have to put the winds and magnets into the equation. I've owned a '78 which read 8.8k and I currently have a Custom Shop PG that's wound at 8.6K. They're still two completely different p'ups.
If you're looking for a stronger PAF, the '78 would be an excellent choice.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: 78 Custom
The 78 is much more aggressive than the PG.
The Seth is more airy and honkier in lack of a better word.
Not much in common.
The 78 is much more aggressive than the PG.
The Seth is more airy and honkier in lack of a better word.
Not much in common.
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: 78 Custom
So, how does the '78 compare to a Screamin' Demon?
So, how does the '78 compare to a Screamin' Demon?
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: 78 Custom
Running those two guitars head to head was a great comparison of everything I though. The Ant Vs Seth, Ant Vs 78, Historic Vs Historic. If they hadn't had such similar weights I wonder if it would have thrown off the comparison?
To the OP....Christian hit the Nail on the head. Each wind is a little bit different and I know part of it is from the magnet wire insulation, part of it is from the pattern. In any case, I don't think you can "go wrong" with a SD PAF, but the 78 fits a specific need of aggression and PAF tone.
Luke
Running those two guitars head to head was a great comparison of everything I though. The Ant Vs Seth, Ant Vs 78, Historic Vs Historic. If they hadn't had such similar weights I wonder if it would have thrown off the comparison?
To the OP....Christian hit the Nail on the head. Each wind is a little bit different and I know part of it is from the magnet wire insulation, part of it is from the pattern. In any case, I don't think you can "go wrong" with a SD PAF, but the 78 fits a specific need of aggression and PAF tone.
Luke
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