A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

[bryan the rocker]

hi there, since I am just a hobbyist and do a few office party gigs in our office,

I plan not to buy a gibson les paul, I played a Standard and a Classic a friend lend me, Nice sounding

but IMHO,

Too overprice for what it delivered,

Expensive !

I plan to buy just a high end agile Al3000 les paul copy, either a maple cap/mahogany body, or an all mahogany body

1)
Do you really need a maple cap in a les paul type guitar,

2)
Is an all mahogany body les paul have
lots of low end and mids that
sometimes it
lack high end definition and muddy up a standard neck pickup

3)
Broader range of tone on a mahogany/maple cap les paul, do you notice it ?

4)
Is it really snappier, sharper attack, or hardly noticable compare to all mahogany body,

5)
which do you prefer an all mahogany or mahogany with maple cap,

I plan to enter the les paul style guitar band wagon, I am a super strat, strat guy,

Need your opinion guys, thanks,

I plan to order Rondo music online, they sell agile guitars

so I will eventually test it wen it arrives, but plan to return and replace it when I am not satisfied,

thanks for the replies,

 

[Innocent_Bystander]

Re: A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

I own both and the all mahogany guitar certainly has more low's and mid's than either of my maple capped Les Paul's. It also seems to sound hotter even with the same pickups.

So to answer your questions.

1.) No

2.) Yes, there are more low's and mid's however I don't think you lose a lot of clarity. They sound different for sure, depends on what you're looking for in terms of tone.

3.) Don't notice this one way or the other.

4.) I think this varies a bit. It seems the higher you go on the fretboard, the more snappy mahogany gets. When playing chords, I find that mahogany tends to resonate a little differently and the ringing notes seem to diffuse themselves differently. It's tough to explain but fairly easy to hear.

5.) I think if I were going to own only one Les Paul, it would have a maple cap. If I were going to own two, I'd buy one with each.

 

[Aceman]

Re: A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

1)
Do you really need a maple cap in a les paul type guitar,
- IMO, no. An all mahog does sound noticeably different though. But not "bad"

2)
Is an all mahogany body les paul have
lots of low end and mids that sometimes it
lack high end definition and muddy up a standard neck pickup
- All mahog is definitely tougher on the neck pup IMO. It can be better on a treble pushed high output bridge pup. Definitely more low/mids.

3)
Broader range of tone on a mahogany/maple cap les paul, do you notice it ?
- Yes I do.

4)
Is it really snappier, sharper attack, or hardly noticable compare to all mahogany body,
- I'd say the snappier attack thing is not really the issue. An ebony board does more for "attack" to my ears than the maple.

5)
which to you prefer and all mahogany or mahogany with maple cap,
- I'm a maple cap guy. But I'm also a maple neck guy! I dig 70's LP necks. But I could easily do mahogany. I'd almost certainly put a Jazz or PG set in it. Depending on what I was going to play it for mostly.

 

[Mr 9finger]

Re: A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

hi there, since I am just a hobbyist and do a few office party gigs in our office,

I plan not to buy a gibson les paul,

Expensive !

I plan to buy just a high end agile Al3000 les paul copy, either a maple cap/mahogany body, or an all mahogany body

1)
Do you really need a maple cap in a les paul type guitar,

2)
Is an all mahogany body les paul have
lots of low end and mids that
sometimes it
lack high end definition and muddy up a standard neck pickup

3)
Broader range of tone on a mahogany/maple cap les paul, do you notice it ?

4)
Is it really snappier, sharper attack, or hardly noticable compare to all mahogany body,

5)
which to you prefer and all mahogany or mahogany with maple cap,

I plan to enter the les paul style guitar band wagon, I am a super strat, strat guy,

Need your opinion guys, thanks

1. I'm going to say yes on the thick Maple cap. A big part of the LP sound is the construction and the materials used.

2. An all Mahogany LP style guitar is def. going to overall thicker in tone. IMO, I think most short scaled guitars sound a bit muffled or aren't as bright and having the wrong neck pickup in there will def. make it muddy.

3. Yes, it is noticable.

4. The thick maple cap def. makes an LP more lively sounding and adds in some high end. You can hear the difference of one w/ and one w/out. You'll get a sharper attack from varying type of pickups. Typical PAF style pickups aren't really known for razor sharp attack though.

5. I could make do w/ either to be completely honest. I can see how they both would have their uses! But I'm also a gear ho to, so take that FWIW.

Here's my opinion though bro. Don't limit yourself to just looking at Agiles. Yes they get great reviews, but there's a ton of other LP style guitars out there for a decent price. LTD, Edwards, Dean, Hamer, PRS, etc... all are making nice LP style guitars for a nice price. You could also check around the used market for old Greco, Ibanez, Burny, and Orville LPs. Which can usually be had reasonably. A lot of people say the older Japanese copies I listed are just as good as their MIA counterparts.

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

i think you should go play a bunch and see what you think yourself. these forums are pretty much useless for assessing if you like a tone or not.

 

[jerryjg]

Re: A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

Just think of all that glue that stifles the resoanance on the maplecap. The plain top has got to be clerare and more natural sounding. I have a Maple cap Les Paul-flamed - but the purist in me wants to say to get the solid Mahogany guitar- and Hunduras mnMahaogany, or just forget it, go ahead and get the Maple cap.

 

[caucajun]

Re: A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

you ask WAyyyy too many of the right questions to be a mere hobbiest.:cool2:.......a non experienced player doesn't need to worry about those details.:scratchch.............buy for looks and reliability and price. :28:

dean EVO's are about the best bang for the buck i've seen.:approve:

bon chans!

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: A les paul mahogany with maple cap, or a all mahogany body,

A customer at my shop today kept saying "just play it." Nothing related to playing guitar has ever made more sense than those three words.

Just play it.

That's the only way you'll know if you like it or not. All this other 'tone theory' nonsense that the internet perpetuates is just that -- nonsense.