A Medium output pickup idea...

[Zhangliqun]

Re: A Medium output pickup idea...

You've done some d*mn interesting research, bud. Seriously.

Thanks -- but it would have all been for nothing if I hadn't stumbled onto a guy who is:

1) Relatively new to the pickup winding business -- and therefore willing to experiment along with me -- and;

2) Clearly has major league talent for winding.

I still can't believe how good that pickup sounds and how much money I've wasted on all these other tonally lopsided designs all these years -- SHEESH!!!

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: A Medium output pickup idea...

There aren't very many, but here are the Harmony Central Reviews. I will add mine soon...

http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data2/Jon_Moore/Humbucker-01.html

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: A Medium output pickup idea...

Correction: I have now added my review.

 

[papersoul]

Re: A Medium output pickup idea...

This all sounds great. I personally am using a WCR Shredder set i my LP Standard that is like a thicker JB with great clarity. It really sounds great but almost too hot to my ears at times. It can have those hard qualities like the JB at times I tend to long for something a bit more open. Thus far….I still feel the best two pickups I have found are the Rio Grande BBQ (12.5) and the Duncan C-5 which doesn’t seem as hot as specs.

I really don’t have a need for the split function or any of that but I like pickups in the 10-12k range although I always thought the resistance numbers mean very little?

Anyway, I also found the Burstbuckers nice as you said in your other post but always felt I needed some more thickness and power which is what the C-5 kind of provides. The C-5 feels more powerful than the BB Pro but not too much. This is most likely due to different wire gauge, etc. The C-5 is medium to hot but sounds great clean and not hard in the mids but in the right guitar (Les Paul with a 300k volume pot) it sounds big, open, warm, and still cuts for leads with the right amp settings.

The Rio BBQ is almost perfect to me, not too hot, not too cold. Works better in some guitars.

Actually…some of the best I have used are the PRS Dragon IIs…nice clean to heavy at about 12k bridge and the neck is nice and clear! I wish Duncan made more in this range. But again numbers aren’t everything.

Have you tried WCR pickups. My favorite is the Shredder but I wish it wasn’t that hot! Ut is like 16.2 k.

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: A Medium output pickup idea...

Well, you could get a Shredder, open it up and remove a few hundred turns per coil to cool it off some. With the #43 wire it likely uses, 100 turns = +/-100 (0.1k) ohms, maybe a shade over.

I have not tried WCR pickups but have seen his site and though he says "don't let the numbers fool you", don't misunderstand him -- DC resistance numbers aren't everything but they are a long, LONG way from meaningless. All other things being equal, more turns (more DC resistance) will give you more output, more mids, and vice versa for fewer turns.