A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

[Nightburst]

Can you guys recommend me any pedal out there who will let me for instance switch from clean + reverb pedal (activated) to gain channel + od pedal (activated) with just one push of the button?

I'm getting tired of tapdancing.

There has got to be such a pedal out there? It doesn't have to be complicated but more options are always good of course.

Also I read something about a Medusa cable and midi interfacing, is this what I'm looking for?

 

[V-Spot]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

The only thing I can think of is possibly an A/B/Y pedal?

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Can't do it without some sort of bradshaw type right... but I'd go for what I did. (and I do exactly that; cleans without OD and with effects, distortion with OD)

Get a G-Major and a midi board, and wire up a Y cable so that the relay on the G-Major can control the OD and the amp's channel switching. It's quite easy to do, and makes everything a helluva lot easier!

 

[James Rock]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

there are a lot of midi switching units that are pretty easy to use (i mean there still complex but there not that hard)

 

[rainsong86]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

my boss gt-8 has an amp control function (switches between two channels.. or turns on and off any other amp function for that matter, as long as there's a jack for it)... plus it has every effect you can think of.. the G-major or any other rack processing with a midi board sounds ideal if you have the money of course

 

[DesertRose]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Get a soundman =P

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

my boss gt-8 has an amp control function (switches between two channels.. or turns on and off any other amp function for that matter, as long as there's a jack for it)... plus it has every effect you can think of.. the G-major or any other rack processing with a midi board sounds ideal if you have the money of course

My G-Major, rack, and pedalboard all together (With cables!) cost 465 . I believe the GT-8 costs 500?

 

[rainsong86]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

oh my bad.. I must have read it as the G-Force (which is 1,500 now).. how's the G-major working out for you?.. is the G-minor pedalboard what you use?.. it looks kinda limiting with jus an up-down button.. reminds me of my days with a Digitech RP100

 

[Jeff Seal]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

..umm, actually I built my own pedal..... switches channel's, reverb, efx loops, MV boosts, stomp boxes and the PU's in my guitar all simultaneously...

Works great for me, but obviously not much help to you...:blackeye:...sorry don't know of anything currently available.

Jeff Seal

 

[Nightburst]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Thanks for the suggestions guys but I prefer something in the form of a pedal. No rack stuff please. I'm not looking for a multi effects pedal either just something that will switch my amp channels and additional pedals.

I think my amp has some specific outputs for this but I don't have enough knowledge about this sort of switching. Anyone with expertise in this area?

Hey Jeff, how about building me one of those Sounds like some cool device you have there!

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Is your FX loop switchable or assignable? if it is, stick the reverb pedal in there and assign the loop to the clean channel, or hit the loop button at the same time as the clean channel button/OD pedal.

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

oh my bad.. I must have read it as the G-Force (which is 1,500 now).. how's the G-major working out for you?.. is the G-minor pedalboard what you use?.. it looks kinda limiting with jus an up-down button.. reminds me of my days with a Digitech RP100

Works amazingly. I have the Beheringer FCB1010 board, and am equally happy with that.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Nightburst, you need a midi matrix box, with a cable that has the Bogner jack on one side and a bunch of 1/4" leads on the other, which plug into that box. Then, from the midi box, a midi cable goes out to a midi footswitch. When you map your midi channels between FX patches and the Bogner's chosen channel, you'll have a completely versatile midi rig.

I found an auction for a company that has one specialized for the Bogner Ecstasy. They'll supply you with everything you need. Then, you buy a midi pedal, and trade your stompboxes for a TC multiFX rack unit, or similar.
So, to have a fully midi rig, you'd need the Gizmo in this link, the cable it comes with, a midi cable, midi footswitch, a 2 space rack that holds 1 FX unit and the Gizmo. You could even put your midi footswitch inside the rack, so everything is contained in that 2 sp. rack.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amp-Gizmo-MIDI-...ryZ23792QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Nightburst]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Is your FX loop switchable or assignable? if it is, stick the reverb pedal in there and assign the loop to the clean channel, or hit the loop button at the same time as the clean channel button/OD pedal.

*EDIT*

That's a good idea. I misunderstood the first time I read your post. Sorry 'bout that.
I need to read up on fx loops. The fx will maybe even allow me to let the reverb on all the time.

 

[Nightburst]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Nightburst, you need a midi matrix box, with a cable that has the Bogner jack on one side and a bunch of 1/4" leads on the other, which plug into that box. Then, from the midi box, a midi cable goes out to a midi footswitch. When you map your midi channels between FX patches and the Bogner's chosen channel, you'll have a completely versatile midi rig.

I found an auction for a company that has one specialized for the Bogner Ecstasy. They'll supply you with everything you need. Then, you buy a midi pedal, and trade your stompboxes for a TC multiFX rack unit, or similar.
So, to have a fully midi rig, you'd need the Gizmo in this link, the cable it comes with, a midi cable, midi footswitch, a 2 space rack that holds 1 FX unit and the Gizmo. You could even put your midi footswitch inside the rack, so everything is contained in that 2 sp. rack.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amp-Gizmo-MIDI-...ryZ23792QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks Gearjoneser, your the man! Turns out midi is the solution!
The midi box looks cool, but the price doesn't. :eek13:

I like the many options of a midi setup. My guitar teach has a lot of midi stuff (he's a producer also) with many cool features and all you have to do is fire it up, plug in and play!
But having a midi setup will require me to drag even more stuff along if I'm going to band practise or a gig. Not very desireable.
Do you use a midi setup for live purposes Gearjoneser?

Can I instead just get a cable and midi pedal for a more basic setup with enhanced control? For now all fx I really need are reverb and od.
Would a non midi pedal work too (if it exists)?

 

[Mincer]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

i currently used a pretty extensive midi rig for live use, and for control, nothing beats it. but, it isn't as simple as getting a pedal. you need something for the pedal to control, like a SwitchBlade or something like that.
I think the first step is to do some research and find out what midi does as well as the different commands.
I think for your use, the best thing might be to do your best to hit the pedals you need. otherwise you are looking at a rack setup with your pedals on a shelf in a rack, and lots of cables.

 

[Nightburst]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

You're right Mincer, I need to read more about midi. The concept is quite confusing so far.

So far as I understand I can't use my current pedals with a midi interface and need to get rack fx? Or is there some other (non-midi perhaps) unit out there that can pull it off?

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Basically man, I'd suggest going the G-Major route. I do exactly what you do; overdrive pedal infront of the amps gain to tighten up the sound, but not on cleans. The way I have it setup now lets me choose between the amps clean/dirty channel and OD pedal on/off seperately, as well as all of my effects and volume boosts, volume pedal, etc, etc, all on one board. It'll run you around 500 all-together, if you go used, and it only adds a three-space rack and the pedalboard to your rig. I'm personally going to just get a head+rack case and carry it all in the same rack.

For now, though, it looks like this:

 

[Mincer]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

no, you don't need rack fx, but you need a way of switching various combinations of your pedals together.
kinda like this: you plug all of your pedals into a switching system (usually a rack based unit)- they are all turned on. the switching system can then route the guitar signal through whatever pedals you want, you just have to tell it which ones. so, the switching system just directs the guitar signal. a midi controller then recalls which combinations of pedals will be on.

 

[Nightburst]

Re: A pedal that will let me switch between amp channels and effect pedals?

Basically man, I'd suggest going the G-Major route. I do exactly what you do; overdrive pedal infront of the amps gain to tighten up the sound, but not on cleans. The way I have it setup now lets me choose between the amps clean/dirty channel and OD pedal on/off seperately, as well as all of my effects and volume boosts, volume pedal, etc, etc, all on one board. It'll run you around 500 all-together, if you go used, and it only adds a three-space rack and the pedalboard to your rig. I'm personally going to just get a head+rack case and carry it all in the same rack.

Sweet rig there bro! Have you already posted some soundclips with this setup? I think I have heard a clip of you with the Custom which sounded really heavy with a ripping tone. :smokin: Keep an eye out for my soon to come clips!

The head+rack case sounds like it's going to be really heavy if you want to carry it on/off stairs!
Gonna think about the G-major thing, not prepared yet to spend that much money just to make switching channels easier but it shure is a nice way to expand my possibilities in the future. Thanks!

no, you don't need rack fx, but you need a way of switching various combinations of your pedals together.
kinda like this: you plug all of your pedals into a switching system (usually a rack based unit)- they are all turned on. the switching system can then route the guitar signal through whatever pedals you want, you just have to tell it which ones. so, the switching system just directs the guitar signal. a midi controller then recalls which combinations of pedals will be on.

Thanks for explaining that so clear Mincer, that's exactly what I'm looking for and what Gearjoneser already suggested. I was hoping there would besome sort of alternative but alas it seems that these are all the options I have.
It's no fun to have expensive taste! :yell: