A Question For Bedroom Players.

[MetalManiac]

Re: A Question For Bedroom Players.

5 watt Jet City Picovalve through a 1x12 closed cab with a CRex. 'Course the bedroom is in a well insulated house in a neighborhood where the neighbors are neighborly. The big rig is a 100 watt Carvin X-amp 3/4 stack with a Randall RG-100es half stack slaved to it. I adjust the settings accordingly.

Call me clothes minded, but there is no way I am playing any amp ,except a Fender balckface, which are very bright and "loud", with less tahn 50 watts...its just too anemic for this metalmaniac.

Mind, I do play quiet clean solid state practice amps that are totally inoffensive.

I have a 120 watt Peavey 5150, and thankfully i can cranck the snot out of it at night , cause there are no neighbors anywhere close, casue its a buisness district..that one is a bit "loud" for even the living room.

 

[Wormhelmet]

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I didn't read any responses to the first post, so I'm just going to answer the first post.

Like cake!

 

[Demanic]

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Call me clothes minded, but there is no way I am playing any amp ,except a Fender balckface, which are very bright and "loud", with less tahn 50 watts...its just too anemic for this metalmaniac.

Mind, I do play quiet clean solid state practice amps that are totally inoffensive.

I have a 120 watt Peavey 5150, and thankfully i can cranck the snot out of it at night , cause there are no neighbors anywhere close, casue its a buisness district..that one is a bit "loud" for even the living room.

As you will.

 

[Skezza]

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Worth adding, I also have a completely different recording tone, due to my recording setup.

 

[Jeff5]

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Do you simply enjoy it like a cake? .

Technically I'm a basement/study player but yes, that's what I basically do.

 

[DankStar]

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The ultimate goal for me is recording another song. But things get in the way and I don't always reach that point as quickly or as often as I'd like. Why a song? I dunno - best way I can figure it is a long time ago I found that my life force strengthened with writing tunes, even if I didn't do anything with them but maybe share them with a few people. Sometimes I listen to them when I need some personal reflection. If the tone is there, the riffs will come, and the whole thing proceeds as it should.

I also like to try an cop my favorite guitar tones as more of a challenge, but don't always use those tones in a recording. In that regard, it's like a puzzle - just something to do for fun that when you describe it sounds sort of pointless but ends up being rewarding.

 

[Lazarus1140]

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Call me clothes minded, but there is no way I am playing any amp ,except a Fender Blackface, which are very bright and "loud", with less than 50 watts...its just too anemic for this MetalManiac.

Mind, I do play quiet clean solid state practice amps that are totally inoffensive.

I have a 120 watt Peavey 5150, and thankfully i can crank the snot out of it at night , cause there are no neighbors anywhere close, cause it's a business district ... that one is a bit "loud" for even the living room.

A mind is a terrible thing to clothe.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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Can it be said that nudists aren't clothes minded?

 

[Pierre]

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I'm a crappy player and have 0 intention of letting anyone ever hear me play.

I love playing. I love my guitars. I love gear. I love tone. So I like good tone. But in the bedroom it's much easier to get good tone in a budget.
So it's modelling amps which offer both good tone, and if I get bored, enough flexibility to try something new.

Never felt guilt, or shame, or the desire to do anything else. I don't quite understand the thread's question since it's by very definition 100% subjective.

 

[aleclee]

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I have another lead tone I can live with, but I have to wait almost a week to play it loud enough to record it.

That's more or less what drove me to the (digital) dark side. People might poo poo my digital amp as not sounding as good as a "real" amp but I can record a screaming guitar part while my family is sleeping in their beds. How good is that tube amp gonna sound at nocturnal volume?

 

[Lazarus1140]

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Can it be said that nudists aren't clothes minded?

Yes, and since Jerry is not a nudist it all makes sense. Sometimes I wish I had a small 6V6 powered Fender Blackface amp. I could play it in my bedroom nude or fully clothed.

 

[Skezza]

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I'm a crappy player and have 0 intention of letting anyone ever hear me play.

I love playing. I love my guitars. I love gear. I love tone. So I like good tone. But in the bedroom it's much easier to get good tone in a budget.
So it's modelling amps which offer both good tone, and if I get bored, enough flexibility to try something new.

Never felt guilt, or shame, or the desire to do anything else. I don't quite understand the thread's question since it's by very definition 100% subjective.

As you say subjective. Cheap modelling amps (i.e. Line 6 Spiders) in my opinion, offer horrific tones. Some of the tones on the Spider I (briefly) owned sounded like a keyboard!

However, there's nothing wrong with a good modelling amp, it's just finding one.

 

[Empty Pockets]

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It's just playing guitar. I use gear I like to achieve lots of different sounds, at home, in the studio, or on stage. You plug it in, you turn some knobs, you play music.

 

[SJ318]

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Hey,
I do most of my playing about 30 minutes at night after looking at the Forums. In a condo, so at 1 or 2 in the morning I gotta be quiet. A Princeton reverb on 1 or 2 with a pillow stuffed in the open back is beautiful. I love waking up with my guitar on my chest. Means I was thinking about guitar when I nodded off.
Fenders' Super Champ X2 is bedroom approved also. Either one - no pedals, super clean W/a little reverb is all I need. A Strat W/1 Duncan, 1 Fender, 1 ECP Hbucker, and my imagination is all I need.
Once or twice a year live is a Fender Deluxe and the usual suspects for a pedalboard, the same Strat, with a cool Telepartocaster I put together for my own pleasure as a very good backup. Actually they trade equal time on stage.
I can only get that sound on stage if the sound guy likes me, I put my Princeton on 5-6 and he mikes the s**t out of me. But that ain't never gonna happen.
Living room is a Blues Jr. 3, on 2 - maybe.
SJB

 

[El Dunco]

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by very definition 100% subjective.

Yeah. That's the point. It's not a 'one answer fits all' type of question. You like good tone. I assume you look for ways to make it even better. Will it be ideal one day? Will you reach tonal nirvana? Will you just leave it and enjoy the sound? If so, might you get sick of it and change it again? Would it perhaps inspire you to want other people to hear it? That's where my mind is at in asking and I think most people who replied understood what I was getting it. I'm just trying to get into the mind of someone who doesn't have the same desires out of music that I do and truly understand. You're right, being solely a home player is nothing to be ashamed of and I don't look down on people who aren't putting their time towards active projects.

It's just playing guitar. I use gear I like to achieve lots of different sounds, at home, in the studio, or on stage. You plug it in, you turn some knobs, you play music.

By your own admission, you go on stage and play in studios. That means your tone has more of a practical application. We all mess around with our gear in our downtime in our project studios, bedrooms, living rooms but what I want to know is that without the need or desire for practical applications (fitting into a stage mix or optimized to put on a record), what's it all about for those guys? For me, I can only go so long just playing guitar without thinking "okay, let's get some of this on tape and get cracking" and I can only go so long without playing a show. Playing live is like crack cocaine for me.

 

[HTT]

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I'm past my prime. I have played small and medium-sized venues. Now it is all about creating new songs and teaching my kids how to play. I use a Fender Champ XD and a Vox AC4. I play clean to moderate gain at household volumes. Those amps cover it quite well. My tastes for "tone" change slightly over time. I'm quite happy with my amps, presently. I can dial in many musical tones to cover the sonic palette I use. I think this answers the OP?

 

[p4vl]

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If I find a great tone, I keep playing. I might write down the settings and describe what I like about it so I can enjoy it tomorrow or later.

Not everything needs to be shared to be enjoyed. I like music a lot more than I like people (that includes the musicians that make music that I love).

 

[DankStar]

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If I find a great tone, I keep playing. I might write down the settings and describe what I like about it so I can enjoy it tomorrow or later.

Not everything needs to be shared to be enjoyed. I like music a lot more than I like people (that includes the musicians that make music that I love).

I heard an interview with marty friedman where he said if he was on a desert island he didn't know if he'd play guitar at all since no one would be there to hear it. I thought that was a weird statement, that you always need an audience.

 

[uOpt]

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Before I begin, I had better make it clear that this isn't having a go or making fun or anyone for any reason. I have no issue with whatever people do with their guitar playing. It's your gear, your time, you do what you like. This is simply about difference in perspective. I've had the "just get it sounding good, shut up and do the show/record" mentality drilled into me from the beginning and finding the best tone I can is always in the context of public performances and releases and stuff. So anyway, if you're a bedroom player and you find the perfect tone, what do you do with it? Do you simply enjoy it like a cake?

Yes.

Do you eventually get bored with it and want to try something else?

Yes.

Is it like the mandalas the Tibetan monks who destroy them and start over?

No, there is always something new to explore. Destruction mainly comes in when it involves an amp that is physically big and that I want to push out to make room for new toys.

But even then I'll have the recordings.

Is it an abstract concept that can never be achieved like perfection?

There isn't any perfection in here.

It is a mental exercise. It involves active relaxation, achieving goals, using your hands and manipulating physical objects (for those of us with a daytime job in software).

 

[aleclee]

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I thought that was a weird statement, that you always need an audience.

This was a source of conflict in my band. I'm more into the creative process but the other guys were much more interested in performing. Different stroke for different folks. Seeing my 4th grader bang his head to my songs is all the validation I could ever need.