A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
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Zhangliqun
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In my own Strat I have one I made that I call the Tire Iron, a 42 gauge 11.2k monster (and a 5/2) which means it's roughly equal to a 14k/43. Hard to get much more 42 on there than that with the .800" rods but if I could, or if I used some .900" or .950" long bobbins I have laying around I could probably make a 12k/42 that would still sound good, you'd just have to rout your Strat a little deeper. But the mud zone could suddenly appear well before 12k and I haven't tried anything like it yet so who knows. If a customer queried me about such a thing, I'd try to talk him into a 42.5 or 43 gauge to avoid a taller pickup that would require routing, and I'm not sure there's necessarily a significant difference in sound between a 14k/43 on a standard height bobbin vs. my tall 11.2k/42 anyway because the width of the coil would be about the same.
At lower levels, like, say, a 9k/42 wind, going to a 43 gauge equivalent would change the coil width (narrower) and may make a difference in the sound being thinner.
In my own Strat I have one I made that I call the Tire Iron, a 42 gauge 11.2k monster (and a 5/2) which means it's roughly equal to a 14k/43. Hard to get much more 42 on there than that with the .800" rods but if I could, or if I used some .900" or .950" long bobbins I have laying around I could probably make a 12k/42 that would still sound good, you'd just have to rout your Strat a little deeper. But the mud zone could suddenly appear well before 12k and I haven't tried anything like it yet so who knows. If a customer queried me about such a thing, I'd try to talk him into a 42.5 or 43 gauge to avoid a taller pickup that would require routing, and I'm not sure there's necessarily a significant difference in sound between a 14k/43 on a standard height bobbin vs. my tall 11.2k/42 anyway because the width of the coil would be about the same.
At lower levels, like, say, a 9k/42 wind, going to a 43 gauge equivalent would change the coil width (narrower) and may make a difference in the sound being thinner.
PFDarkside
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
Might need a Zhang set...
Might need a Zhang set...
Chistopher
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
I can confirm this to be fact.
I can confirm this to be fact.
Zhangliqun
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
I'm fond of hot 42's to be sure, but that's not to say 43's on a regular bobbin can't be just as good. Am pondering some 43 models with the big 1/4" rods.
I'm fond of hot 42's to be sure, but that's not to say 43's on a regular bobbin can't be just as good. Am pondering some 43 models with the big 1/4" rods.
Jacew
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
What's the gauge in QP's? 44?
Those sound very interesting models you're planning!
What's the gauge in QP's? 44?
Those sound very interesting models you're planning!
Zhangliqun
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
I think they're 43, so this idea of mine is not totally original, just do my own flavor/take.
I think they're 43, so this idea of mine is not totally original, just do my own flavor/take.
Zhangliqun
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
8.5k is overwound?
8.5k is overwound?
Zhangliqun
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
Sorry, I was thinking humbucker -- D'OH!!!
Sorry, I was thinking humbucker -- D'OH!!!
PicoRiveraTele
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
That would be pretty similar to an SSL-5. One man's trash...
That would be pretty similar to an SSL-5. One man's trash...
Zhangliqun
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
Keep in mind that one winder's wind (combo of pattern, components, materials, etc) at 8.5k may just not work while another may be dynamite. Fralin's by his own admission (and warning) apparently don't, though I haven't tried any so I can neither confirm nor deny.
Keep in mind that one winder's wind (combo of pattern, components, materials, etc) at 8.5k may just not work while another may be dynamite. Fralin's by his own admission (and warning) apparently don't, though I haven't tried any so I can neither confirm nor deny.
Lewguitar
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
I do like Lindy Fralin’s Steel Pole 43 quite a bit.
It uses 43 gauge wire but has adjustable screws for the pole pieces and has the magnet under the bobbin.
It’s my favorite “hotter than vintage” Strat bridge pickup.
Gets compared to a P90 a lot.
Blends well with regular Strat single coils and you don’t lose the classic bridge and middle combined tone. Still sounds “right”.
I use it with Antiquity Surfer neck and middle pickups and my best friend uses it with two Duncan SSL1’s.
I do like Lindy Fralin’s Steel Pole 43 quite a bit.
It uses 43 gauge wire but has adjustable screws for the pole pieces and has the magnet under the bobbin.
It’s my favorite “hotter than vintage” Strat bridge pickup.
Gets compared to a P90 a lot.
Blends well with regular Strat single coils and you don’t lose the classic bridge and middle combined tone. Still sounds “right”.
I use it with Antiquity Surfer neck and middle pickups and my best friend uses it with two Duncan SSL1’s.
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Zhangliqun
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
8.0k for neck can work great, though obviously not if your bridge is in the 6k or so vintage range, you'll need something beefy there to balance. (The aforementioned Strat has one of those in the neck to go with the monster 11.2k/42.) Will get you that SRV punch without having to use an .024 for your high E...
8.0k for neck can work great, though obviously not if your bridge is in the 6k or so vintage range, you'll need something beefy there to balance. (The aforementioned Strat has one of those in the neck to go with the monster 11.2k/42.) Will get you that SRV punch without having to use an .024 for your high E...
Jacew
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Re: A5/42 gauge strat bridge pup....at what point in DCR does it change?
It wouldn't... But about one mans trash comment: I was a bit shocked when I put together the partscaster I have under modding. When you kcik up the gain, the stock ceramic bar peavey bridge has incredibly good tone. It honestly rivals SSL-5 and QP. All different, but just as good.
It wouldn't... But about one mans trash comment: I was a bit shocked when I put together the partscaster I have under modding. When you kcik up the gain, the stock ceramic bar peavey bridge has incredibly good tone. It honestly rivals SSL-5 and QP. All different, but just as good.
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