Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

Damian5643

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Hey guys and gals. I've got a custom guitar in the works that should be done any day now, and naturally, I've just thought of an amazing feature that I would love to have on it--piezo.

The top contender I'm considering is getting some Graph Tech Ghost saddles, and a push/pull tone pot. I only really have the tone pot on there because there's a blower switch to bypass everything, so I saw no reason not to have it. I was thinking I would want the pot to control tone like normal when pushed in, but activate the piezo and control its volume, bypassing tone, when pulled out. This would allow me to control a blend of piezo and magnetic pickups with the volume and (formerly) tone controls. I have no idea if this setup is possible, or even a good idea. If any of you knowledgeable people out there know of a better way to get sweet classical guitar tones out of my shred stick, know how to wire up what I've just described, or have any reasons NOT to do this to my new guitar that I may not have thought of, I'd love to hear from you!

I have no intention of putting in a different bridge, and only as a last resort will I consider adding knobs or switches requiring that I drill holes in the wood.

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I'm currently thinking Graph Tech Ghost saddles and concentric pots for piezo volume without sacrificing an existing knob. My concern is not having space for a preamp or battery, and not wanting a battery in my guitar. Is there any reason I couldn't build the preamp into a stompbox and run the piezo signal (stereo output) to the pedal preamp?
 
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Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

Your setup sounds cool, but I do not know if it is feasible. Piezo pickups have a lot more leads to be connected than a traditional pickup. Not sure if you can pull it off with a traditional push/pull. What kind of guitar are you adding the piezo to? Keeping in mind, the Fishman bridges are phenomenal. Even without the added benefit of the piezo, they are great bridges of their own accord. I have two Fishman equipped guitars. I love them both. Here is my Iceman mod, I also have a factory installed USA Parker.

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Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

Just so you know what you are getting into, this is the inside of my Ibanez. If you notice I had to add extra plates to the toggle to handle the switching.

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Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

take a look at Fishman power bridge...put on on a Tele, snap to install and sounds terrific.
 
Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

I have a Fishman system on my Alleykat. It sounds close enough to a piezo'd flat top for stage use and was easy to install. In my case, I sacrificed my master volume knob to the piezo system. I don't know if the control scheme you proposed would be feasible, to be honest.
 
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I'm sure they're great, but the bridge is the old-school Floyd without the fine-tuners, and I doubt they make one that'll match the recessed body. Totally a viable option for one of my other guitars that I'm much more okay with modding to hell.
 
Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

Not to derail the subject, but what are you guys using to make the piezo setups not sound awful?
 
Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

I also use the Fishman Powerchip sounds fantastic and also takes to gain fairly well. I do not use the piezo souly for acoustic tones but blend it with the magnetic pickup quite often. It adds a lot of definition when using overdrive or distortion.
 
Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

I have RMC piezos in a Brian Moore guitar for the acoustic output and synth triggering. It is a maze of wiring in there with ribbon cables, and I wouldn't know where to start to sort it all out. I process it through compression, EQ, delay and reverb and it goes straight to the PA.
 
Re: Adding Piezo to an Electric Guitar

Just a quick update:

I think the Graph Tech saddles and preamp and a set of concentric pots for tone and piezo volume will work, provided I can fit the preamp/battery in the cavity. If I can't fit something, I think I can rig up an external battery box that I can plug in for gigs where I'll actually use it.
 
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I put a set of the Ghost saddles and preamp stuff in one of my strats years ago. I fought with it constantly in terms of making it work right. Even contacted GraphTech for support. Finally removed and sold it. Guess I wasn't smart enough to make it work for me. :dunno:
 
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