Advantages and Disadvantages of Peavey 6505 + 112 Combo

[Franknfilms]

Re: Advantages and Disadvantages of Peavey 6505 + 112 Combo

If I was you, Blood Orange, I would get this amp:
V3M with 1x12 $799
http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=V3M112

V3M with 2x12 $849
http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=V3M212

First of all, the features are down right ridiculous. More switches that you could ever get bored with in a lifetime. Perfect for home, practice, small gigs, and big gigs. The only downside (from what i've read and heard) is that it is harder to dial in a medium gain open sounding rock tone. It is sparkling clean or tight compressed insane metal with little in between. Sounds like the perfect amp for you (and me). I haven't played one, few have since they aren't really in stores, but I don't think you could go wrong. Eventually you could get a much better cabinet, but the carvin ones are cheap and good for starting out.

 

[NecroPolo]

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6505 1x12 was out of my radar for some reason I don't know. Checked the price at a local online store and it's rather friendly for the sound I think. I want to check one out. It's a pity that there is no simple head version.

Thanks for the suggestion folks!

 

[Khriss Bliss]

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My megaproblem with this amp is it doesnt have near as many power tubes as the head, and power tubes cranked is where its at for me-( i use a 22watter). However, i concede the plugnplay philosophy is legit so i have no metal amps to suggest, possibly excepting Blackstars.
Failing this, id say get a pedal with a preamp tube( SD mayhem, Ib tubeking999tk, radial tonebone, Blackstar, etc) and over-drive a combo with at least two power tubes. But i understsnd if this option dont appeal to you.

 

[Blood Orange]

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If I was you, Blood Orange, I would get this amp:
V3M with 1x12 $799
http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=V3M112

V3M with 2x12 $849
http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=V3M212

First of all, the features are down right ridiculous. More switches that you could ever get bored with in a lifetime. Perfect for home, practice, small gigs, and big gigs. The only downside (from what i've read and heard) is that it is harder to dial in a medium gain open sounding rock tone. It is sparkling clean or tight compressed insane metal with little in between. Sounds like the perfect amp for you (and me). I haven't played one, few have since they aren't really in stores, but I don't think you could go wrong. Eventually you could get a much better cabinet, but the carvin ones are cheap and good for starting out.

Thanks for the heads-up. This definitely has swayed me about getting the 6505+. It seems to be very versatile. I guess this means I'll have to wait some more though.

 

[mwalluk]

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Thanks for the heads-up. This definitely has swayed me about getting the 6505+. It seems to be very versatile. I guess this means I'll have to wait some more though.

check out the Cravin Legacy Series I.

Awesome cleans, awesome gain

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: Advantages and Disadvantages of Peavey 6505 + 112 Combo

An obvious advantage of the 6505+ combo is you only need to eplace ONE speaker if you do not like the stock one.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: Advantages and Disadvantages of Peavey 6505 + 112 Combo

check out the Cravin Legacy Series I.

Awesome cleans, awesome gain

Ive seen a complete 1/2 stack on eVilleBay last month go for $800.00 BIN.
In good cond.

 

[Chickenwings]

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5150/6505's are great and all.....
im just really surprised noone has mentioned one of the Marshall DSL offerings!
Second hand DSL's is all configuration from a 40w 1x12 combo to a 100w head are plentiful, reliable, cheap and killer sounding.
They have plenty of high gain sounds with no need for pedals and not a bad clean channel (very good when you consider its a marshall).
The other cool thing about a dsl is that its actually an amp to aspire to, not the kind of amp you'll always want to upgrade from ..... but if it turns out that you do, then being a marshall you will get your money back when it comes time to sell.

 

[Franknfilms]

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Thanks for the heads-up. This definitely has swayed me about getting the 6505+. It seems to be very versatile. I guess this means I'll have to wait some more though.

Get it! I'm just being selfish here, I want more people to own this amp so I can continue to learn about it. It always seemed like my dream amp, and I definitely will not be buying any gear for a long time so the next best thing is to try and get people to buy the stuff that I want :naughty:

 

[Blood Orange]

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im just really surprised noone has mentioned one of the Marshall DSL offerings!
Second hand DSL's is all configuration from a 40w 1x12 combo to a 100w head are plentiful, reliable, cheap and killer sounding.
They have plenty of high gain sounds with no need for pedals and not a bad clean channel (very good when you consider its a marshall).

That's good. I'd really like to refrain from using pedals. I keep hearing about Marshall's in general, but I've heard they're good for certain types of music. I can see after saving up me shelling out around $1000 max, so I would want something that was versatile. Have you had experience with the DSL series?

 

[Blood Orange]

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Looked at the Marshall DSL series and couldn't get pricing for it. However it appears that anything except the combos will be well over my budget.

 

[Revelation777]

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Looked at the Marshall DSL series and couldn't get pricing for it. However it appears that anything except the combos will be well over my budget.

Have you looked at the Peavey Vypyr Tube series?
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Vypyr120H
It's solid state with tubes but I've heard people get really brutal sounds out of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygH3Vb3jjj4 (Skip to 3:30 for the demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQd11jw2ZTY

I've heard crazy good recordings of even the non-tube version of the Vypyr amps on ToneFinder.com
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/peavey-vypyr-30-30w-guitar-amp-head/h68200000001000

DON'T GET A COMBO! They are heavy as crap dude once you get one with a 12" speaker, (don't get anything smaller for metal tones).

Either way, I hope you find something that gets you what you want! Good luck

 

[Franknfilms]

Re: Advantages and Disadvantages of Peavey 6505 + 112 Combo

DON'T GET A COMBO! They are heavy as crap dude once you get one with a 12" speaker, (don't get anything smaller for metal tones).

Yep, I agree. Do it right the first time. Playing through a closed back cab (even just a 1x12) sounds significantly better than a combo. Get an amp head and a cabinet separately. Combo's should be avoided for metal. I got an amazing deal on a xxx combo and I love the amp, but I'm currently extracting the amp from the combo and housing it in a smaller amp head cabinet.

 

[Revelation777]

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Yep, I agree. Do it right the first time. Playing through a closed back cab (even just a 1x12) sounds significantly better than a combo. Get an amp head and a cabinet separately. Combo's should be avoided for metal. I got an amazing deal on a xxx combo and I love the amp, but I'm currently extracting the amp from the combo and housing it in a smaller amp head cabinet.

You could always seal up a open-back combo (which is bad for most metal because of the lack of tightness). Still yet though, heavy as crap if it's a tube amp. I had a Line 6 Spider III 12" combo amp and it was like IDK 75lbs? xD

That said, outside of the metal realm, there's a lot amps that are only in combo form (most Fender amps for example), but were not dealing with that in this case.

Since I use a modeler I now use a powered PA speaker that sounds way better and it's only ~40lbs!

 

[Lightstrings]

Re: Advantages and Disadvantages of Peavey 6505 + 112 Combo

I just bought the EVH5150III combo 2*12. A high gain monster, made by Van Halens own Eddie Van Halen, guitar wiz, and all around amazing everything guitar. But what I found out was that combos have problems. Since the 6505 is the follow up to the Peavey 5150, I found that 50 watt combos have these traits. Because they are fewer watts, they distort quicker and require less volume to do so. But 100 watt heads have more headroom and can be turned up and still not have reached peak by volume 5-7 imo. So they have less feedback.

So the 6505 1*12 is a good choice, for metal, hard rock. But they feed back quicker because they have less head room.


One thing in your favor is that the 6505+ 1*12 weighs less. It doesn't take as much omph for UPS and Fed Ex to carry and move it. Tubes may not get josltled as easy when shipping to you. Thus less microphonics in the tubes.

That would be plus. Kind of like a head. Why? IMO the head is light like 45 lbs. I weigh 160 lbs. and carry 45 lbs with ease. So I can baby the amp, hold it carefully, and never have it tip upside down. But a combo weighs like 100 lbs. Guys have to push that thing hard, sometimes they move it by laying it upside down. Thus possibly some slight increase in chipping tubes, shaking them. Maybe more microphonics.

Why disappointment in the very cool Fender EVH5150. Huge feedback on channel 3, with the volume at 2, and the gain at 1.

Some of the EVH5153 (Fender) that are out now, have some issues. It's probably a fluke.

Get the Peavey 1*12. They have great crunch. The best. It's a real tube amp. The cleans are improved over the 6505. Only thing gain stage on the combo for channel 1 share that gain stage with Channel 3.

My head is spinning. Must be pushing that amp.