Advice/help on 59/Custom "craiglist" buy

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robo

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I'm interested in a 59/Custom humbucker since some of you fine experts here at the Duncan forum recomended me to try one, in an older thread.

It's on a Swedish "craiglist" kind of site. Listed as a Duncan 59/Custom and it looks fine. But the K Ohm readings is listed in each coil. I don't know if this seams right.

Seller sais black/white reads 7.4k, red/green reads 4.3k. Seymourduncan.com lists the 59/Custom as 11,2k. So how does that work? Do you just sum it up? 7,4 + 4,3 = 11,7k. A little hotter than listed on the duncan.com but it seasm legit I guess?

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That sounds legit. Pickups can read a bit different from one to the next due to different batches of wire, and readings also vary depending on temperature.
 
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Yup, that sounds right. And the mismatch of coils is what makes the hybrid so interesting to my ears. And the hot coils allows for more of a true single coil when splitting.


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It sounds right to me, too. The coils are mismatched, which gives the Hybrid a unique sound.
 
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Tone Meister said:
And at 11.7K it's probably trembucker spaced.
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Whoa! Trembucker that's Fender spaced isn't it? Fudge! I have just bought it, and it's on it's way by mail. Will this do a difference on my Gibson guitar?
 
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Phew! I just googled the trembucker boxes and they are green. This box was red, so I guess it's okay then.

But still a, interesting question: does a trembucker in a Gibson equals trouble or is it just a teeny-weeny difference?
 
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Tone Meister said:
And at 11.7K it's probably trembucker spaced.
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Not necessarily. That's within normal tolerance range.

While trembuckers are usually a significantly higher resistance than their humbucker brothers, you COULD theoretically get one that is the same as or even less than the humbucker version due to those tolerances.
 
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In any case, functionally and tonally the larger string spacing won't be a problem. But, if it is indeed a trembucker, it probably won't fit the routing in your guitar due to its overall longer length.

If the ad didn't say it was trembucker spaced, you are probably safe. But, then again, you really can't trust craigslist ads.
 
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robo said:
I'm interested in a 59/Custom humbucker since some of you fine experts here at the Duncan forum recomended me to try one, in an older thread.

It's on a Swedish "craiglist" kind of site. Listed as a Duncan 59/Custom and it looks fine. But the K Ohm readings is listed in each coil. I don't know if this seams right.

Seller sais black/white reads 7.4k, red/green reads 4.3k. Seymourduncan.com lists the 59/Custom as 11,2k. So how does that work? Do you just sum it up? 7,4 + 4,3 = 11,7k. A little hotter than listed on the duncan.com but it seasm legit I guess?

No?


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Or new album released December 2018 – listen here!
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Seymour Duncan is a notoriously sloppy winder

Other brands sometimes have pickups accurate to 0.1 or even 0.01k ohms, but Seymour stuff is +/- 5-15% (sometimes worse) so accurate to only 1 digit
 
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Advice/help on 59/Custom "craiglist" buy

robo said:
Phew! I just googled the trembucker boxes and they are green. This box was red, so I guess it's okay then.

But still a, interesting question: does a trembucker in a Gibson equals trouble or is it just a teeny-weeny difference?
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Trembuckers fit in newer Gibsons but not if they have a cover. The open bobbins just barely clear the pickup ring.

Box color only applies if it’s new. If it’s used, no guarantee that is the box from that pickup.
 
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beaubrummels said:
… Box color only applies if it’s new. If it’s used, no guarantee that is the box from that pickup.
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Yes of course, I thought of that too. But then on the other hand if it's used nothing is guaranteed. It might not work at all. It might not just be a 59/custom trembucker in a 59/custom box. It might be a JB in a 59/custom box for all I know. But I'm fairly confident that it'll be all right. The seller seams lika a nice guy too, so hopfully if anything goes wrong, we can work it out. Fingers crossed.
 
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Adieu said:
Seymour Duncan is a notoriously sloppy winder

Other brands sometimes have pickups accurate to 0.1 or even 0.01k ohms, but Seymour stuff is +/- 5-15% (sometimes worse) so accurate to only 1 digit
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That's completely ridiculous. Most if not all production SDs are wound by a CNC machine to a set number of turns. Any differences in DCR are a result of variance in the wire itself, temperature-related differences, or tolerances of the meter being used.

I call bullsh*t on anyone being able to produce pickups with DCR tolerance of +/- 0.1K ohm let alone 0.01K. It doesn't take a huge variance in wire thickness to account for more than that in 5000 turns.
 
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dystrust said:
That's completely ridiculous. Most if not all production SDs are wound by a CNC machine to a set number of turns. Any differences in DCR are a result of variance in the wire itself, temperature-related differences, or tolerances of the meter being used.

I call bullsh*t on anyone being able to produce pickups with DCR tolerance of +/- 0.1K ohm let alone 0.01K. It doesn't take a huge variance in wire thickness to account for more than that in 5000 turns.
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But then, you'd expect that kind of a rash statement from Adieu.
 
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Adieu said:
Seymour Duncan is a notoriously sloppy winder

Other brands sometimes have pickups accurate to 0.1 or even 0.01k ohms, but Seymour stuff is +/- 5-15% (sometimes worse) so accurate to only 1 digit
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That hasn't been my experience at all. I just bought two SSL-2s and an SSL-6 a couple weeks ago, they measure exactly what the website said they would. No measurable variance at all. The '59 neck pickup that I've got was only off by .1 ohms from the website value. What pickups exactly have you seen unexpected resistance values in?
 
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Thanks for your input y'all. The pickup arrived Saturday and I put it in the guitar right away. Sounds really good. But I have just tried it at home for now, through my practice amp. I'm gonna give it a real run for the money on rehearsal with the band tonight.
But it was no trembucker but the standard humbucker I hoped it would be.
 
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dystrust said:
That's completely ridiculous. Most if not all production SDs are wound by a CNC machine to a set number of turns. Any differences in DCR are a result of variance in the wire itself, temperature-related differences, or tolerances of the meter being used.

I call bullsh*t on anyone being able to produce pickups with DCR tolerance of +/- 0.1K ohm let alone 0.01K. It doesn't take a huge variance in wire thickness to account for more than that in 5000 turns.
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You just have to accept that over 99% of what this (?)guy writes is ignorant rubbish.......the amount of times that it is plain that his post contents are nothing but a crude guess based off no knowledge whatsoever is perhaps the highest that any one forum member has ever achieved.
 
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That adieu guy always make outrageous statements only because he thinks that somehow makes what he says relevant.

I guess he considers better to be known as a troll than being ignored. Unmistakable signs of a psychologically troubled person.
 
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