alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

[jayrob84]

hi guys i know this is a subject that has been on here a lot but ive read through and not really found the answer i want .
i have a 08 usa strat that i run into a fender hrd . with only a few pedals 95q wah budda zenman in the front and the chorus and delay through the loop . in my guitar atm is some fender fat 50s that i fitted myself ( i believe newer usa strats came with them already fitted at some point) .

im thinking of taking out the fat 50s and putting in some alnico 2 pickups . how will this change the sound and do you think its a good idea .
see i like lots of styles of music and players but i would say everything from peter green to gilmour as a ruff guide . i think some times the fat 50s sound a little stingy on the drive channel but i can curve that withe the zenman pedal. something i use a lot is the clean channel and i love that single coil sound you get through a fender. ive gotta admit as well ive always like the idea of putting some cs 54 pickups in . i know thats going in the opposite direction to the alnico 2s but on clean channel i recon they would be great.

the point is guys ive never used or even tried alnico 2 pickups so i have no idea what they will really sound like . from what ive read they sound like the right direction but im worried i will lose that classic clean tone i like so much .

also did any famous player ever use alnico 2s in there strats ?

 

[darthphineas]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

good thread about magnets at https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?200860-Teach-me-about-magnets

 

[Demanic]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Try some Duncan 5/2's. Best of both worlds.

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[darthphineas]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Try some Duncan 5/2's.

but those are $150 per pickup!

 

[jayrob84]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Yer I'd rather not spend to much

 

[darthphineas]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Try some Duncan 5/2's. Best of both worlds.

or did you mean the Five-Two Strat?


when I see the #s, I always think of the Custom Shop version. the marketing can seem a little confusing, I suppose.

 

[Demanic]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Yes, the 5-2 Strat. Sorry for the confusion.

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[darthphineas]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Yes, the 5-2 Strat. Sorry for the confusion.

no confusion on your part, daddy-o. someone else is naming 2 different products by a similar name.



incidentally, have you seen THESE?

 

[Demanic]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Those do look interesting.

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[jeremy]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Try some Duncan 5/2's. Best of both worlds.

these are great sounding pups. keeps the spank on the bottom but softens the top a little.

but those are $150 per pickup!

or did you mean the Five-Two Strat? when I see the #s, I always think of the Custom Shop version. the marketing can seem a little confusing, I suppose.

you mean the 5/2 stack from the custom shop?

incidentally, have you seen THESE?

thats the same concept as the strabro90 but not tapped. and they are doing it the opposite way i like them. i like the alnico rods on the wound strings to keep the clang on the bottom and the screws on the top strings to give em a little p90 girth

 

[jayrob84]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Thanks guys I'll check um out

How about famous players who use alnico 2s?

 

[jeremy]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

almost all fenders have had alnico 5 pups since the beginning. yes there are exceptions but 95% of the fender single coils out there are a5.

 

[jayrob84]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

I like the look of alnico 2s but don't want them if they are going to change the characteristics of the sound to much. I don't want to loose that strat sound?

Plus I only like true single coils. I've tried stacked and noiseless and just don't like um

 

[Orville]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

Thanks guys I'll check um out

How about famous players who use alnico 2s?

On the humbucker side Slash would be one that is notable.

Here is a link to a youtube video that shows the differences in magnets. Best listened to with some headphones/earbuds. The differences can be subtle, and of course winding and other factors contribute to the final sound.

 

[jayrob84]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

On the humbucker side Slash would be one that is notable.

Here is a link to a youtube video that shows the differences in magnets. Best listened to with some headphones/earbuds. The differences can be subtle, and of course winding and other factors contribute to the final sound.

can you put the link to this youtube video cuz i cant get it to play thanks

 

[jeremy]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

I like the look of alnico 2s but don't want them if they are going to change the characteristics of the sound to much. I don't want to loose that strat sound?

alnico 2 looks just like alnico 5

 

[jayrob84]

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alnico 2 looks just like alnico 5

Lol it was a figure of speech

 

[dave74]

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Lol �� it was a figure of speech

No figures involved in speech, just words and sounds. (I know,,,,it's just a figure of speech to say "figure of speech" lol.

 

[Mincer]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

The Five Two is my favorite true single coil, period. They should get more attention than they do.

 

[PicoRiveraTele]

Re: alnico 2 vs 3 and 5

hi guys i know this is a subject that has been on here a lot but ive read through and not really found the answer i want .
i have a 08 usa strat that i run into a fender hrd . with only a few pedals 95q wah budda zenman in the front and the chorus and delay through the loop . in my guitar atm is some fender fat 50s that i fitted myself ( i believe newer usa strats came with them already fitted at some point) .

im thinking of taking out the fat 50s and putting in some alnico 2 pickups . how will this change the sound and do you think its a good idea .
see i like lots of styles of music and players but i would say everything from peter green to gilmour as a ruff guide . i think some times the fat 50s sound a little stingy on the drive channel but i can curve that withe the zenman pedal. something i use a lot is the clean channel and i love that single coil sound you get through a fender. ive gotta admit as well ive always like the idea of putting some cs 54 pickups in . i know thats going in the opposite direction to the alnico 2s but on clean channel i recon they would be great.

the point is guys ive never used or even tried alnico 2 pickups so i have no idea what they will really sound like . from what ive read they sound like the right direction but im worried i will lose that classic clean tone i like so much .

also did any famous player ever use alnico 2s in there strats ?

AlNiCo 2 Strat pickups are almost always too dark and mushy for me. The only ones I've ever tried and liked also had a very low wind, such as Lollar Blondes. I've tried a lot of "blues" sets with AlNiCo 2 that are wound to the mid 6k range, and I couldn't tolerate the dull clean tone.