Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock?
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KNUCKLHEAD
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Re: Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock?
I Dont have that Tone Problem with the 2 magnet types ~ I Also Dont use Humbuckers in the neck of Strats or Teles ( Even if Playing very Hardcore stuff / has to do with what's played on the neck on my Originals ( open string Alternate sections and arpeggiated type picking sections not Rythyms Per Se . Also to me u cant even Discuss Pickups without running down styles and Amplifiers because there's no Generalities that Fit All .
I Dont have that Tone Problem with the 2 magnet types ~ I Also Dont use Humbuckers in the neck of Strats or Teles ( Even if Playing very Hardcore stuff / has to do with what's played on the neck on my Originals ( open string Alternate sections and arpeggiated type picking sections not Rythyms Per Se . Also to me u cant even Discuss Pickups without running down styles and Amplifiers because there's no Generalities that Fit All .
dystrust
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I love it for soloing on the neck position. It has clarity almost like a good Strat pickup, but the mids and lows of a humbucker. If you want to do the vintage HB thing, roll off the tone to 7 or 8.
I love it for soloing on the neck position. It has clarity almost like a good Strat pickup, but the mids and lows of a humbucker. If you want to do the vintage HB thing, roll off the tone to 7 or 8.
KNUCKLHEAD
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but remember what Npinedo13 said the Strat's Basswood ~ Basswood's A-Tonal so u have to keep that in mind So I would NEVER go laidback in the bridge with Basswood ~ U need Steroids with it. in fact Whenever i buy 80's jap Strats or Teles I keep and build the Ash ones + Give away the basswood bodies ( Hardwood Plywood is more tonal like Ash actually
but remember what Npinedo13 said the Strat's Basswood ~ Basswood's A-Tonal so u have to keep that in mind So I would NEVER go laidback in the bridge with Basswood ~ U need Steroids with it. in fact Whenever i buy 80's jap Strats or Teles I keep and build the Ash ones + Give away the basswood bodies ( Hardwood Plywood is more tonal like Ash actually
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Rex_Rocker
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The Jazz is even brighter than the '59.
As much as the Black Winter can pull other genres off, if a blistering metal tone is not your *main* goal, I think you'd be more happy with something a bit more laid back in the bridge too. The Custom is probably a safer bet in that regard.
The Jazz is even brighter than the '59.
As much as the Black Winter can pull other genres off, if a blistering metal tone is not your *main* goal, I think you'd be more happy with something a bit more laid back in the bridge too. The Custom is probably a safer bet in that regard.
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KNUCKLHEAD
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Re: Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock?
2014 build for myself ( Ash Body - of Course ) 250 hours logged ~ Ceramic Chopper Bridge / A-5 Twisted neck + believe me this Tele rips in Playability and Sound
Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock ? <-- Yes, Definitely for Rock + if Your Amps are Dope
2014 build for myself ( Ash Body - of Course ) 250 hours logged ~ Ceramic Chopper Bridge / A-5 Twisted neck + believe me this Tele rips in Playability and Sound
Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock ? <-- Yes, Definitely for Rock + if Your Amps are Dope
Aceman
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Re: Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock?
Wow- always surprised at what the monkey farm comes up with....
First of all, EVERYTHING about the OP's posts to this point suggests that he wants an A2P (Or Slash) in the neck. As for the BW in the bridge, can't say if they will work together.
Also - not a damn one for you asked what "Work together" actually means. Here are a few examples for all the people who *ahem* are out there making ASSumptions:
- Matching OUTPUT levels going to neck (Distortion neck, BW neck, maybe a 59/custom)
- Matching TONE when going to neck (Perhaps a Duncan designed 103?)
- Matching OUTPUT and TONE when going to neck (BW neck)
- A tone that "complements it when both on; Adds mids to scooped bridge, adds fatness to sharp highs, adds tighter/rounder bass to looser/sharper bass, or vice versa....
A 59 and a BW should work as well or better depending on your tastes as a 59 and a Distortion.
A 59 IS NOT FAT!!! Large tights bass is the neck, yes, but has sharp A5 style highs there also. It is scooped/scoopish. Bass-Treble. In a mid heavy guitar/amop, it would be even. With a scooped amp/guitar, you get scoop.
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On output levels - it's like people can't adjust the height or something. I have rarely had issues with a PAF style and a hot bridge that could not be dealt with satisfactorily by raising the neck and lowering the bridge a touch, or slightly more....
Wow- always surprised at what the monkey farm comes up with....
First of all, EVERYTHING about the OP's posts to this point suggests that he wants an A2P (Or Slash) in the neck. As for the BW in the bridge, can't say if they will work together.
Also - not a damn one for you asked what "Work together" actually means. Here are a few examples for all the people who *ahem* are out there making ASSumptions:
- Matching OUTPUT levels going to neck (Distortion neck, BW neck, maybe a 59/custom)
- Matching TONE when going to neck (Perhaps a Duncan designed 103?)
- Matching OUTPUT and TONE when going to neck (BW neck)
- A tone that "complements it when both on; Adds mids to scooped bridge, adds fatness to sharp highs, adds tighter/rounder bass to looser/sharper bass, or vice versa....
A 59 and a BW should work as well or better depending on your tastes as a 59 and a Distortion.
A 59 IS NOT FAT!!! Large tights bass is the neck, yes, but has sharp A5 style highs there also. It is scooped/scoopish. Bass-Treble. In a mid heavy guitar/amop, it would be even. With a scooped amp/guitar, you get scoop.
Additional comment:
On output levels - it's like people can't adjust the height or something. I have rarely had issues with a PAF style and a hot bridge that could not be dealt with satisfactorily by raising the neck and lowering the bridge a touch, or slightly more....
Benjy_26
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Re: Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock?
I think concentrating on figuring out what magnets blend well with each other is the wrong approach for choosing pickups, tbh. There's plenty of hot, warm ceramic pickups and plenty of cutting, bitey alnico 2 and 5 pickups. You just have to choose what sounds you want from each position and choose pickups that'll give you that sound no matter what magnets are in them.
I think concentrating on figuring out what magnets blend well with each other is the wrong approach for choosing pickups, tbh. There's plenty of hot, warm ceramic pickups and plenty of cutting, bitey alnico 2 and 5 pickups. You just have to choose what sounds you want from each position and choose pickups that'll give you that sound no matter what magnets are in them.
Ascension
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I'm running a Sentient with an Alt 8 in the bridge and really like the combo. My Stock 07 PRS Custom 24 is running the ceramic mag HFS with the Alnico 5 VB.
Sentient would be a much better choice than a 59 neck that's for sure.
I'm running a Sentient with an Alt 8 in the bridge and really like the combo. My Stock 07 PRS Custom 24 is running the ceramic mag HFS with the Alnico 5 VB.
Sentient would be a much better choice than a 59 neck that's for sure.
Rex_Rocker
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I posted this pic some time ago. The first is the DiMarzio in the neck set at the same distance from the strings as the BW in the bridge. I played the same thing both times:
I don't think any amount of height adjustment could've helped that difference.
I had the same problem with a BW/Phat Cat Neck combo and even a Distortion/'59N in another guitar to some extent.
I understand some people like a cleaner neck pickup. I can see how the result can be desirable, but it's still an imbalance. Each to his own.
Really? When I tried to match a DiMarzio 36th Anniversary PAF and a Black Winter in a guitar, it just didn't work. I ended up getting rid of the DiMarzio and dropping a BW-N. Problem solved.
I posted this pic some time ago. The first is the DiMarzio in the neck set at the same distance from the strings as the BW in the bridge. I played the same thing both times:
I don't think any amount of height adjustment could've helped that difference.
I had the same problem with a BW/Phat Cat Neck combo and even a Distortion/'59N in another guitar to some extent.
I understand some people like a cleaner neck pickup. I can see how the result can be desirable, but it's still an imbalance. Each to his own.
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KNUCKLHEAD
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Aceman , I wrote an original called Monkey Cluster in Drop-C bout 10 yrs ago
Yes i do agree that magnet types can + will determine overall tone to a Significant degree
Aceman , I wrote an original called Monkey Cluster in Drop-C bout 10 yrs ago
Yes i do agree that magnet types can + will determine overall tone to a Significant degree
JesusCrisp
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Re: Alnico 5 neck and Ceramic bridge for rock?
I think what you want is a medium-to-hot bridge pickup without a very modern voicing and a low-to-medium output neck humbucker.
I really wouldn't go for a high-output, aggressive bridge PU like the Black Winter. Custom/59-hybrid and 59 neck or even a JB/Jazz set may be up your alley with the former being more "classic" and the latter more 80's voiced (IMO). If you want to go for Dimarzios a Super Distortion with a PAF Pro in the neck would be fine as well. The SD has a good voicing for everything from hard rock to 80's metal with tight enough bass response and bite for metal (currently using a Super Distortion/Super 2 set in a guitar for C-Standard tuning).
For the occasional metal tones you can always add an OD pedal in front of your amp for a bit of extra output and bite. It's much more of a problem to get satisfying more classic tones out of metal monster pickups. With the right rig you can play metal with PAFs, but really don't go for metal pickups if your focus is hard rock.
I think what you want is a medium-to-hot bridge pickup without a very modern voicing and a low-to-medium output neck humbucker.
I really wouldn't go for a high-output, aggressive bridge PU like the Black Winter. Custom/59-hybrid and 59 neck or even a JB/Jazz set may be up your alley with the former being more "classic" and the latter more 80's voiced (IMO). If you want to go for Dimarzios a Super Distortion with a PAF Pro in the neck would be fine as well. The SD has a good voicing for everything from hard rock to 80's metal with tight enough bass response and bite for metal (currently using a Super Distortion/Super 2 set in a guitar for C-Standard tuning).
For the occasional metal tones you can always add an OD pedal in front of your amp for a bit of extra output and bite. It's much more of a problem to get satisfying more classic tones out of metal monster pickups. With the right rig you can play metal with PAFs, but really don't go for metal pickups if your focus is hard rock.
KNUCKLHEAD
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That's exactly what i'm saying in different words ~ all the rest of my Gear beefs things when needed but I can get beautiful tones as well .
That's exactly what i'm saying in different words ~ all the rest of my Gear beefs things when needed but I can get beautiful tones as well .
Diego
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I use a A2 Pro / Custom combo and I can go from Gary Moore to Metallica to Mastodon in convincing fashion, no problem.
Can't see why it wouldn't work for you. There's a difference in output and compression, of course but nothing you won't be able to manage.
I use a A2 Pro / Custom combo and I can go from Gary Moore to Metallica to Mastodon in convincing fashion, no problem.
Can't see why it wouldn't work for you. There's a difference in output and compression, of course but nothing you won't be able to manage.
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The main goal of the combo is to have a punchy, aggressive sound on the bridge and a hot (warmer) neck that can cut through for hot solos with enough output to keep up with a supercharged distorted HB. I'd prefer both pickups clean up well as I use mid position for for cleans. Overall sound I'd like to accomplish is 80s to modern hard rock, with just enough to do some convincing metal (when I get in the mood for some shredding) I love my hot rails neck for solos, but not anything else.
The main goal of the combo is to have a punchy, aggressive sound on the bridge and a hot (warmer) neck that can cut through for hot solos with enough output to keep up with a supercharged distorted HB. I'd prefer both pickups clean up well as I use mid position for for cleans. Overall sound I'd like to accomplish is 80s to modern hard rock, with just enough to do some convincing metal (when I get in the mood for some shredding) I love my hot rails neck for solos, but not anything else.