AlNiCo vs ceramic
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Lewguitar
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Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
Exactly!
I like to mix them too...at least the 10's.
In my '51 Fender Super I use a '51 Jensen alnico P10R and a Jensen ceramic '66 C10N.
The C10N sounds big and clean and deep...the P10R is pluckier, chewier, breaks up more easily and is more touch sensitive.
But they need each other to complete each other.
However, I don't usually mix ceramic 12's with alnico 12's...
No real reason other than it's never seemed neccesary.
Lew
jeremy said:
Exactly!
I like to mix them too...at least the 10's.
In my '51 Fender Super I use a '51 Jensen alnico P10R and a Jensen ceramic '66 C10N.
The C10N sounds big and clean and deep...the P10R is pluckier, chewier, breaks up more easily and is more touch sensitive.
But they need each other to complete each other.
However, I don't usually mix ceramic 12's with alnico 12's...
No real reason other than it's never seemed neccesary.
Lew
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idsnowdog
Imperator of Indignation
Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
If we are talking about speakers it is the tradeoff between frequency response and power handling vs tone. But since tone isn't absolute it is usually derived from frequency respone and power handling. I like the sound of some alnico speakers but they probably wouldn't suit my style very well.
If we are talking about speakers it is the tradeoff between frequency response and power handling vs tone. But since tone isn't absolute it is usually derived from frequency respone and power handling. I like the sound of some alnico speakers but they probably wouldn't suit my style very well.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
It all depends on the amp and the setting.
It all depends on the amp and the setting.
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
I have 2 4x10 cabs, both with 2 ceramic Celestion G10L-35s & 2 alnico Jensen P10Rs in an X pattern, 1 open back/1 closed back...Fuchs ODS Custom 20 SLX running thru them.......HUGE!!!!
Nice big tight sound(ceramic), but with a warmth & smoothness(alnico).
Love these Marshall 1965A/B cabs :bigthumb:
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I have 2 4x10 cabs, both with 2 ceramic Celestion G10L-35s & 2 alnico Jensen P10Rs in an X pattern, 1 open back/1 closed back...Fuchs ODS Custom 20 SLX running thru them.......HUGE!!!!
Nice big tight sound(ceramic), but with a warmth & smoothness(alnico).
Love these Marshall 1965A/B cabs :bigthumb:
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jalguitarman
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Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
So what are the Celestion black shadows in my boogie? Ceramic or alnico?
So what are the Celestion black shadows in my boogie? Ceramic or alnico?
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Lewguitar
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Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
Probably ceramic. If they look like a three layer pancake, with a dark layer in the middle, they're ceramic.
jalguitarman said:
Probably ceramic. If they look like a three layer pancake, with a dark layer in the middle, they're ceramic.
Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
ok so heres my question since we are talking about it. two alnico 10s and a ceramic 12 or a ceramic 10 with alnico 10 and 12
i was originally thinking alnico 10s and a ceramic 12 but now i might be shifting the other way
what yall think
ok so heres my question since we are talking about it. two alnico 10s and a ceramic 12 or a ceramic 10 with alnico 10 and 12
i was originally thinking alnico 10s and a ceramic 12 but now i might be shifting the other way
what yall think
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Lewguitar
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Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
Jeremy, I think unless you're talking about super expensive alnicos like JBLs, that ceramic will tend to give you the bigger, deeper cleaner tone and the alnico the more easily overdriven and compressable tone. In my amps where I've combined the two types it's the ceramic that adds the cleaner tones and the alnico that provides the more easily overdriven tones. So I'd recommend alnico for the 10's and ceramic for the 12.
You could come up with an 8 ohm load by going with two 8 ohm 10's in series (= 16 ohms) and then connect that combination in parallel to a 16 ohm 12. That'd be two 16 ohm loads in parallel and would give you 8 ohms total.
Jeremy, I think unless you're talking about super expensive alnicos like JBLs, that ceramic will tend to give you the bigger, deeper cleaner tone and the alnico the more easily overdriven and compressable tone. In my amps where I've combined the two types it's the ceramic that adds the cleaner tones and the alnico that provides the more easily overdriven tones. So I'd recommend alnico for the 10's and ceramic for the 12.
You could come up with an 8 ohm load by going with two 8 ohm 10's in series (= 16 ohms) and then connect that combination in parallel to a 16 ohm 12. That'd be two 16 ohm loads in parallel and would give you 8 ohms total.
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Metalman_666
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Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
Just wondering, was this thread meant to be general in terms of both speakers and pickups? Or were you targeting one over the other?
I haven't had very much experience with either AlNiCo or Ceramic, but from everything I've read and heard from all the forum bros I think either can do a good job in a pickup. Is it true that Alnico pickups can have more sustain?
Just wondering, was this thread meant to be general in terms of both speakers and pickups? Or were you targeting one over the other?
I haven't had very much experience with either AlNiCo or Ceramic, but from everything I've read and heard from all the forum bros I think either can do a good job in a pickup. Is it true that Alnico pickups can have more sustain?
greendy123
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Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
This is probably for speakers because its in the amplifier section. I think ceramics are probably the most used as most of the popular celestion speakers use ceramic such as the G12T-75, vintage 30, and greenbacks.
This is probably for speakers because its in the amplifier section. I think ceramics are probably the most used as most of the popular celestion speakers use ceramic such as the G12T-75, vintage 30, and greenbacks.
Metalman_666
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Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
Right... lol sorry, I'm a bit out of it. Should've realized it was in the Amp forum. :smack:
greendy123 said:
Right... lol sorry, I'm a bit out of it. Should've realized it was in the Amp forum. :smack:
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: AlNiCo vs ceramic
My take on this is good sounding 12s are a dime a dozen...it's tough to find a GREAT sounding 10. I'd get the best sounding 10s I could find, be it ceramic or alnico & then get the opposite 12.
Say....2 alnico Weber 10s & a G12H30 ????
HHHHHHMMMmmmmmmm.....now THAT'S a tasty sounding cabLewguitar said:
My take on this is good sounding 12s are a dime a dozen...it's tough to find a GREAT sounding 10. I'd get the best sounding 10s I could find, be it ceramic or alnico & then get the opposite 12.
Say....2 alnico Weber 10s & a G12H30 ????
