Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

I use both. So thanks for telling me I'm on crack. I appreciate it. It's just so mature of you to notice.

Calm down... it's all personal opinion (and a certain degree of facetiousness was incorporated as well)... geez :laugh2:

Grow a backbone or stay off of an online forum.

 

[Artie]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

All of you digital reverb guys are on crack. If you want true ambience to the notes and not some weird effect caked on top of your tone, get a REAL spring reverb tank.

Hey Chris; I know you meant this tongue-in-cheek, but it still misses the point.

We tend to think of vintage tube sound, and vintage spring reverb sound. Vintage tube sound is a "real" thing. Its the sound of an old component that breaks up in a unique way. Thus creating the "tone" of an electric guitar.

But a vintage spring reverb is different. Its an old electro-mechanical way to simulate the sound of room ambience. It wasn't the "original" sound the way tube overload is. This is one area where high-tech can do a better job of simulating that ambience than the old way can. Thats why I called spring reverb an effect in itself.

 

[frankfalbo]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

All of you digital reverb guys are on crack. If you want true ambience to the notes and not some weird effect caked on top of your tone, get a REAL spring reverb tank. Countless amplifiers come with spring reverb tanks, not digital because they sound better (Matchless, Bogner, Bad Cat, Fender...)

Maybe so, but it's some good crack.

I want to agree with your basic sentiments, because tone is truly subjective and I would never knock someone for preferring spring reverb. As I said I like it too. I use both like T.R. But there's a bit of marketing coming along with the expensive amps with tanks. They're massaging the vintage nerves, and it's really not that costly. And lots of people would scoff if a boutique amp came with digital. I probably would too. I don't want A/D converters in my signal unless I decide I want to introduce it myself. So I'd take the tanks on the amps, but then add my own stuff post-mic, or post tracking. What you've said against digital reverb is fine, but a little naive. Your favorite albums may have spring reverb off the amp, but chances are they have studio ambience, or the real thing, miked up in a room that produces it own reverb, and using room mics.

 

[Robert Delahunt]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Calm down... it's all personal opinion (and a certain degree of facetiousness was incorporated as well)... geez :laugh2: Grow a backbone or stay off of an online forum.

Evidentally I have a backbone because I'm not afraid to tactfully speak my mind, and because I came to you about it. If it's an opinion, maybe you should say that in your post instead of sounding like you're a tone god or something.

I also have a backbone because I can use the ignore function very well.

 

[firebirdVII]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Evidentally I have a backbone because I'm not afraid to tactfully speak my mind, and because I came to you about it. If it's an opinion, maybe you should say that in your post instead of sounding like you're a tone god or something.

I also have a backbone because I can use the ignore function very well.

:laugh2: (I stole it from another forum)

 

[TimmyPage]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

The guitarist in my last band much preferred digital.

Hes the only guitarist I know that I could talk about gear with.. the rest are like "Lol Marshall MG.. its says Marshall, lets buy it." *sigh*

Im a Spring Reverb kind of person.. but I never use it.. never above like.. 2 anyway.

EDIT:

I also have a backbone because I can use the ignore function very well.

Erm.. isnt the ignore function kind of like.. running away from the problem at hand? Thus using it is not exactly a form of back bone reinforcement.

 

[Scott_F]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Well, here's a question... how many of you use reverb in high volume situations?

Normally IMHO, all reverb, digital or tube-driven, sounds pretty much like crappola when it's really cranked up and driving. Gets overwhelming, swampy, sucky... But at reasonable volume, just a touch can be nice at times.

 

[Artie]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

You may have a point. All of my playing is at relatively low volume. So, I like a touch of reverb.

 

[Robert Delahunt]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Well, here's a question... how many of you use reverb in high volume situations? Normally IMHO, all reverb, digital or tube-driven, sounds pretty much like crappola when it's really cranked up and driving. Gets overwhelming, swampy, sucky... But at reasonable volume, just a touch can be nice at times.

Yeah, the only song i really "need" spring reverb on isn't super loud. Just crank twin reverb amp to where it starts to break up a tiny bit and you're G2G. Besides, they mic my amp.

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Maybe so, but it's some good crack.

I want to agree with your basic sentiments, because tone is truly subjective and I would never knock someone for preferring spring reverb. As I said I like it too. I use both like T.R. But there's a bit of marketing coming along with the expensive amps with tanks. They're massaging the vintage nerves, and it's really not that costly. And lots of people would scoff if a boutique amp came with digital. I probably would too. I don't want A/D converters in my signal unless I decide I want to introduce it myself. So I'd take the tanks on the amps, but then add my own stuff post-mic, or post tracking. What you've said against digital reverb is fine, but a little naive. Your favorite albums may have spring reverb off the amp, but chances are they have studio ambience, or the real thing, miked up in a room that produces it own reverb, and using room mics.

Good post, I agree completely :beerchug:

We all use our own effects in our own way. Some people may look for a completely saturated reverb tone. I'm sure a lot of people probably prefer the clarity of a digital signal (that's certainly one advantage of digital) and reliability (the spring tanks I've owned were never overly robust). If it gets you where you want to be, that's what really matters, nothing is better or worse

 

[LesStrat]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

LS, you have a PodXT ... do you prefer the sound and feel of the reverb on that, or the springs in your amp?

Actually, one of my favorite reverbs is in my Peavey Bandit 112S. I don't know if it is as good in other Bandits, but this one is :cool3:

But I think that the last time I plugged it in was when Rocket came to visit in December.:smack:

 

[LesStrat]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

To reiterate my earlier comment about personal taste:

Most people swear by the Boss chorus. I don't care for it. I prefer my DOD fx65. But I mainly use it with acoustic. I rarely use chorus with electric.

 

[bungalowbill]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

I find I'm not using the reverb on my amps that much anymore unless the room is dead acoustically.......sometimes I'll use a touch of slapback delay for an ambient effect. Anyone else playing dry most of the time?

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Chris, politely speaking, I was one of the people who also preferred digital.

I have to say, and I mean this constructively, there are players on here who do NOT post their resumes, but they are pretty well-versed / experienced with music. You have rubbed me wrong on more than one occassion. I would appreciate you not being so aggressive with your views. I find some highly seasoned players here, in LA, and on this forum to be much more liberal in their methods of communicating than you have been.

I have told myself many times as I have read your posts that I am reading you wrong, but I am trying to prevent us from ever exchanging "words". Thankfully, we have been friednly thus far. You seem like a reasonable fellow, and I hope this hits home.

Having known many people with crack habits - I can tell you with certainty that I have a good ear for pitch, rhythm, intonation, AND TONE, and I am NOT on crack.

 

[firebirdVII]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

:laugh2: (I stole it from another forum)

+1


.... That's right, I'm not afraid to quote myself.



I personally never have tried a digital reverb, but I like the not so clean spring reverb sound. This may have to do with the fact that I prefer real rustic type recording methods and sounds. For example, Johnny Winter Nothin' But the Blues has a great ambiance from not being processed.

Can digital do that?

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Deleted the offensive post. I don't want to see this thread go downhill from a few outrageous comments in jest.

 

[baritone]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

I like digital reverb. Generally, for ambience-type effects, I prefer the precision and ability to adjust parameters available with digital effects. With delay effects, I can get pretty crazy with stretching the parameters, but with my reverb pedals, I usually keep it as subtle as possible anyways to keep it from getting overwhelming. Both of my reverb pedals have tone knobs to cut down the digital sharpness and simulate analog sound. I wouldn't say that it is an exact reproduction, but it sounds cool to me.

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Scott hit a good point - the louder it gets, the less I like Spring verb - makes it all Muddy. With cleans I like Fender Deluxes with the Spring (or Twins) for that huge jazzy tone. On gain I like some room, plate, or ambience, but LESS AND LESS as I crank.

 

[TimmyPage]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

I find I'm not using the reverb on my amps that much anymore unless the room is dead acoustically.......sometimes I'll use a touch of slapback delay for an ambient effect. Anyone else playing dry most of the time?

I agree, as well as with the earlier post about muddiness. Any kind of performance, I just turn the reverb off, because once you get it up to a good volume the natural reverb kicks in anyway. And if the room is acoustically dead (like my main practice room) Ill turn it up just a little bit.

 

[Binnerscot]

Re: Am I crazy for not liking spring reverb?

Spring reverb sounds nice, but it has never been my favorite either. I really like plate reverbs, but you won't fit that into an amp, so digital (a good one) does the job really well.