Amp/Guitar problems

[GuitarHen]

So, I put in a Duncan Invader, and ever since there's been crackling and harsh buzzing when I play. Thinking it was a ground problem, I kept re wiring over and over, finally I tried it through a different amp. Is it possible that the high output of the pick is messing with the digital amp? (Fender Mustang 3)

 

[BurningShrine]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Hello there!
So it really is the amp...
Fender offers firmware updates on their homepage.
If that doesn't help you can:
- Plug a limiter between your guitar and amp to avoid the clipping (most likely that's what causes your problems)
- Change the pickup height and hope the output gets low enough
- Change the pickups
- Get another amp (how old is it? maybe you're able to bring it to the store and return it)

 

[GuitarHen]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Hello there!
So it really is the amp...
Fender offers firmware updates on their homepage.
If that doesn't help you can:
- Plug a limiter between your guitar and amp to avoid the clipping (most likely that's what causes your problems)
- Change the pickup height and hope the output gets low enough
- Change the pickups
- Get another amp (how old is it? maybe you're able to bring it to the store and return it)

What exactly is a limiter? And where can I get one?

 

[uOpt]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Surely amp thingie must have some form of gain control before that stage that's clipping?

Overall I don't buy the diagnosis Is this really with the same cable, in the same place etc?

 

[GuitarHen]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Surely amp thingie must have some form of gain control before that stage that's clipping?

Overall I don't buy the diagnosis Is this really with the same cable, in the same place etc?

I bought a brand new cable, and that amp makes the noise no matter the setting, clean or distortion

 

[uOpt]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

That sounds like the problem is after the amp's distortion phase, which would make it unrelated to the guitar.

 

[BurningShrine]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Surely amp thingie must have some form of gain control before that stage that's clipping?

Overall I don't buy the diagnosis Is this really with the same cable, in the same place etc?

The amp is digital, all the sounds are emulated.
I'm not an expert with modulation but if the input signal peaks,
the processing unit will cut off (or even just distort) the high amplitudes and cause all kinds of weird noises.
I am assuming the amp has no limiter or pre-amp for the input and the signal passes directly into the processing unit.
(Or it's just broken...)

Have you tried the firmware update yet?
You could get in touch with the fender customer service.
Maybe they are able to help.

A limiter that isn't to expensive would be something like
the Boss CS-3.

 

[GuitarHen]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

The amp is digital, all the sounds are emulated.
I'm not an expert with modulation but if the input signal peaks,
the processing unit will cut off (or even just distort) the high amplitudes and cause all kinds of weird noises.
I am assuming the amp has no limiter or pre-amp for the input and the signal passes directly into the processing unit.
(Or it's just broken...)

Have you tried the firmware update yet?
You could get in touch with the fender customer service.
Maybe they are able to help.

A limiter that isn't to expensive would be something like
the Boss CS-3.

I'm sorry, I'm really amateur at this stuff. Are you saying I need a compressor? Cause the amp has on on it, I just don't use it. You think that will help?

The amp is digital, all the sounds are emulated.
I'm not an expert with modulation but if the input signal peaks,
the processing unit will cut off (or even just distort) the high amplitudes and cause all kinds of weird noises.
I am assuming the amp has no limiter or pre-amp for the input and the signal passes directly into the processing unit.
(Or it's just broken...)

Have you tried the firmware update yet?
You could get in touch with the fender customer service.
Maybe they are able to help.

A limiter that isn't to expensive would be something like
the Boss CS-3.

 

[jon the art guy]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

So the amp does this with cable unplugged all the way? How about just a cable and no guitar? How.about guitar with volume all the way off? A little up?
It may be that the jack is busted. May be the guitar jack is busted, may be that the digital.amp is amplifying the incoming signal waaaaaay too much, may be the amp.needs to be calibrated to the invaders output.
Also, the mustang series had some firmware issues in which the amp apparently got fuzzy and bad sounding that was cured with a download via usb to.the unit from the fender site.

 

[jon the art guy]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Dont go trying to fix the problem with pedals yet. As far as i know, digital amps have historically not responded to.pedals in general in the typical way a normal amp would, and a buffered limiter or compressor may do odd stuff. Best to solve.the problem that lies somewhere between the power plug and you.

 

[GuitarHen]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Dont go trying to fix the problem with pedals yet. As far as i know, digital amps have historically not responded to.pedals in general in the typical way a normal amp would, and a buffered limiter or compressor may do odd stuff. Best to solve.the problem that lies somewhere between the power plug and you.

Alright, so I used it on a Marshall tube amp, and it sounds perfectly fine. I tried my amp, with a different guitar and it sounded fine. I've come to believe its just the combination of my guitar and my amp together that produces there wretched and forsaken atrocious noises.

 

[jon the art guy]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

...
that sucks.

hmm. (shrug) dunno man, sorry.

 

[GuitarHen]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

...
that sucks.

hmm. (shrug) dunno man, sorry.

Well.. Nothing left to do than to take into a shop.

 

[jon the art guy]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Yea, that sounds like a good idea. There's only so much forum people can do without getting it into hands. Either that or you just need an exorcist.

 

[GuitarHen]

Re: Amp/Guitar problems

Maybe I should call a priest first....