Amp Or Not 1 (Poll)
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LLL
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Haha! That's funny, cuz that's exactly what you do and did with TMRZoo. :lol:
So, did you vote, or are you part of the problem?
LLL
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I'll pass. Especially with you lying about me... again.
And to quote Mincer, "Stick to the topic, please".
LLL
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beaubrummels
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The UAD (Universal Audio) Friedman HBE plugin (by BRAINWORX) is an IR, is it not? Or is it a software emulation of the circuit?
LLL
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Never heard of an amp plugin being an iR (impulse response). Speakers and reverbs as iRs, yes.
This Friedman HBE is an amp plugin that includes a bunch of speaker iRs.
Here's the UA webpage on it:
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/g...ollection.html
BRAINWORX designed it and have it on their website too:
https://www.brainworx.audio/products...an/be-100.html
beaubrummels
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Never heard of an amp plugin being an iR (impulse response). Speakers and reverbs as iRs, yes.
This Friedman HBE is an amp plugin that includes a bunch of speaker iRs.
Here's the UA webpage on it:
https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/g...ollection.html
BRAINWORX designed it and have it on their website too:
https://www.brainworx.audio/products...an/be-100.html
For the below video, didn't he run a sweep through the amp and cab together to make an IR of the amp and cab? I took his explanation to mean they looped a guitar performance that was recorded direct to the board into the amp+cab and into an amp+cab IR. Or did he plug the cabinet into some other kind of preamp to run the sweep through just the cab/speakers alone? I've done IRs of my studio and spaces. I've heard of people taking sweeps of equipment also. I just recall years ago when I was watching vids of how UA created hardware emulations, they would profile the EQ curves and response of components of the circuit and put them in order - basically it looked like in essence they were creating a stack of IRs in series to get a result out the other end. But I don't really know exactly how it's done.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/for...o-don-t-embrace-new-tech-ir-vs-mic-d-speakers
LLL
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Dunno for sure. I was under the impression that they model (software wise of course) the amp as the amp is; meaning, the circuit itself and the sections (preamp poweramp phase inverter neg feedback etc) therein.
Kinda like how AMT does with their amps in a pedal... which are a miniaturized analog version of the amp in question... but of course, via software
Not with sweeps and snapshots.
you can't hide that shit from me 
NegativeEase
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Well, I got this one right -The giveaway for me was the lack of cone/air movement sound on the first track before doubling that my reference monitors enuciant often. The double guitar after the first riff really covered up that giveaway with some more speaker nuance to me.
Also, often the attack of the pick sound was dead consistent no matter which string are emphasized on the riff -so I thought hard about that clue -as a top flight player like LLL may be able to muscle that naturally easier than most
Also, often the attack of the pick sound was dead consistent no matter which string are emphasized on the riff -so I thought hard about that clue -as a top flight player like LLL may be able to muscle that naturally easier than most
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JamesPaul
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I thought for sure I had it based on that hiss at the end. I cannot get anything which sounds that authentic out of my modellers. I spend so much time on computers at my day gig that I do not want to play thru one, but that is my hangup.
I am however enjoying the challenge, and will keep trying as long as you keep putting them up!
I am however enjoying the challenge, and will keep trying as long as you keep putting them up!
LLL
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HAHAHAHA
LLL
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I'll be testing this nuance in the future. That will require me to play something with less gain a la say, AC/DC.
Modelers and the like have traditionally had problems with mid-gain tones. They can do clean and super cranked, but in between, they have struggled.
What interesting, is that now I now know its a modeler, I like it less. :?:
I didn't think it was a holy grail tone and am left wondering if my copy of Guitar Rig 6 could do the same thing? (I havent actually played it - got it free with Komplete)
One thing I remember from trying Helix Native... I remember liking all the online demos of Helix I heard, but when I played it myself I was much less impressed with it. When someone else is playing it, you don't have any of the negative baggage that came with tweaking it. You just hear it for what it is.
I didn't think it was a holy grail tone and am left wondering if my copy of Guitar Rig 6 could do the same thing? (I havent actually played it - got it free with Komplete)
One thing I remember from trying Helix Native... I remember liking all the online demos of Helix I heard, but when I played it myself I was much less impressed with it. When someone else is playing it, you don't have any of the negative baggage that came with tweaking it. You just hear it for what it is.
NegativeEase
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Emotional attachment to brands, expectations etc plays such a huge part in our hearing....
It's why naming your pedal brand "Way Huge" "Trutone" "Fulltone" "Boss" or anything with "Vibe" "Tone" or a superlative word helps create emotional desire, attachment to the product.
It's a good trick basically.
NegativeEase
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Also, not to say these pedal brands aren't good or great but It's a good trick basically to get pedal sales and commitment to the next level.
NegativeEase
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I heard a $30 Joyo Overdrive Pedal through a Music Man and Marshall 1960a cab and it was incredible by the way...
But I didn't know what the rig was until after I had enjoyed it.
But I didn't know what the rig was until after I had enjoyed it.
