Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

[Hot _Grits]

Re: Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

Fender have just done a limited edition bassman ri with a tube rectifier and a nicer cabinet.

The fender reissues are great amps, but they definitely lack a little magic compared to a well maintained vintage example.

The tweed champ and bandmaster would be my picks for reissues, but they'd have to do them properly.

 

[Stevo]

Re: Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

I was not playing guitar in the days of the original plexis therefore I don't think my new 1987x has anything to do with habit. A couple of years ago, I decided that Marshall tone works for me. Now that I have had a few Marshalls, I have found that this one works the best for me, so far.
It would be nice to have an original plexi, specifically for studio use, but that is a luxury. I can't see gigging with an old plexi, as I would worry about it all of the time. Logically, to me, it makes sense to have a reissue.

 

[Curly]

Re: Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

I'll echo Joneser's rundown ... the reissues started showing up near the top of the vintage guitar craze. So where there's a market, the manufacturers will fill the demand.

 

[Quencho092]

Re: Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

Before you start preaching to me on tube distortion, keep in mind that it was you who posted all those threads asking how to overdrive your power tubes without you're preamp gain adding buzz a week ago, and that I was one of the people who told you how to get it. You're preaching to the converted, so you might want to save your lectures for someone else.

First off, I began this thread to hopefully find what some people consider a quality RI amp based on a vintage model. I see why this does not suit you at all, and why you hate my simplification idea, as you play so many styles. But again, the object of this thread was to find out about good RI amps and why vintage amps are good in tone and quality, not why they don't suit you and why you need 3 channels and high gain. I play blues, classic rock and some early metal (80-83), and my peavey classic does well with a good pedal. But it depends on to what extreme you intend on playing those genres.

Second, your advice was wise from the posts last week, but not enough to accredit you for being a "tube guru". It is obvious that turning up master volume will clean up the preamp signal, allowing the power tubes to work harder, as the preamp will not distort when given so much headroom. The preamps sort of won't distort when the channel volume isn't high in comparison to the master. Its like saying, your guitar gets louder when you turn up the volume knob. I know that when you make an amp louder, the power stage is generating more power.=power tubes work more....

Finally, I appreciate the fact that you took my argument so offensively. It's called debating, and i didn't come here to deal with people too immature to respect opinions. Before your last post, my only argument was that you could get a makeshift 3 channels out of almost any amp, and that power tube distortion was good. You wanted no power tube distortion ("mud"), and a higher extent of gain-fine. I just figured that the simpler things are, the better the quality, as is the case in many circumstances. Nowhere in my post did i call you a "metalhead", and i continuously argued that I was not looking for versatility. Nowhere did i 'cross the line' and deliberately insult you, leaving me to question why you responded in such a manner.Your posts continuously argued that you needed versatility-that's fine with me-i never said that versatility was crap or anything. Just said that i could do without it when i could have a good classic tone for half the price of a Mesa or a Rivera. It's like trying to get a player who plays strictly classical guitar to play every genre and be convinced that he needs the most versatile, most expensive equipment to achieve this.

This argument is useless and has only resulted in you getting P.off at me for not liking your taste in amplifiers. So what if I don't like over the top circuit laden amps? No hard feelings

 

[some_dude]

Re: Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

No hard feelings

I think both of use are missing the others point in this one.

I suggest we both just let this one go.

Cheers,
:beerchug:


EDIT: Check you're mailbox, I sent a PM to clear up any misunderstandings.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

Earlier, I stated that the Marshall Reissues started around 94, but they've made 4 input plexi reissues even earlier. In 1987, when the Jubilees came out, they also made reissues of the 1987X 50W and 1959 100W. Then again in 97. Anytime the big companies see a demand for vintage gear, they come out with something to compete.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Amp Reissue Mania-What has gotten into Manufacturers?

Mincer has a good point about this generation being more nostalgic than the last. I tend to laugh at all the guys that go on and on about Hendrix, and copy his gear to the T. If Hendrix were someone that was a modern day player, he wouldn't care about what was hip in 69; he'd probably have a rig that makes the best of all of our current advancements in gear.

Honestly, I like gear that takes the idealogy and tone of vintage gear, but updates it to a level that's more suited to current standards. The problem is that players nit pick it to death. Also, the type of gear that is 'cutting edge' becomes dated very quickly nowadays. That's a big reason that Fender, Gibson, PRS, and Martin stay with classic designs. Think of all the modern touches they've employed on some of their guitars. People don't like it, and refuse to buy it. They also take a big price hit if they decide to sell a LP with a Kahler, or a strat with big ugly brass hardware, or an acoustic with a revolutionary pickup design. As soon as it's "out", it's seen as junk.

This is true with cars, clothes, etc...
I think my ideology is always: its about the sound. The design, country of origin, glossy ads, if SRV used it, all that doesn't matter. Play it first, rather than look to see where it was made or how it was made second. Don't check to see who is watching you first, so they can think you are cool. Its all about the sound. I have heard too many tube amps that suck, and digital modeling that was good. So I stopped testing gear with my eyes.