Analog Reverb for Laney AOR

Dr.Mavashi

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As most of you know this monster does not have a build in reverb. So, what would be a goog pure analog reverb pedal(stombox) or rack, idealy stompbox, for
Classic/Power metal, I like the reverb sound of Savatage, EdGuy, White Lion, Uli Roth, Blackmore(especially early Rainbow), Iron Maiden's Wasted Years. Thanks.
Can a reverb be a Tube-reverb ??? I remeber somebody said here that Vox uset to make a Wah pedal with a tube in it. Thanks.
 
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Christ, the thing is the size of the freaking real tube head .... Is that good for such size and price ... 500 buck, that more then I payed for my Laney .... I don't know .... Thanks for the link, any other ideas ???
 
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Is Fender still making the reissue tube reverb? I think of the Fender standalone reverb as more the surf/**** Dale sound than those you listed.

Electro Harmonix makes a reverb - the Holy Grail? I think that has a tube in it, but I think the reverb is digital, rather than springs.

Look on eBay for old spring reverb units. Tapco stereo reverbs don't cost much, they were a PA-oriented product but would work for guitar. Indestructible, too. Also look for old Univox reverbs: guitar-amp-head looking things, but smaller. Search eBay - I see a lot of weird old spring reverb units from the 60's and 70's.

Edit: Here's a Tapco and here's a Fender resissue. Sorry, no Univox this week.
 
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It's not analog, But the Line 6 verbzilla is what I use with my JCM 800 2204 clone. I tried many Digital Verbs & Delay and none could achive the sound I wanted. The Verbzilla is very warm and organic sounding IMO. I had a sound clip up of me trying to nail David Glimours `Time' solo tone with the verbzilla.
I'll repost it if you would like?:)
 
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I just love that wormth of analog/tube I have an all tube Laney, a tubescreamer,
and looking around for nice analog chorus/flange, i just don't think digital element will work here, is that fender 63 that good? and how holy grails is rated then if it has a tube but digital reverb(what are those springs) digital or analog,
or is it like those amps with digital pre-amp and tube amp?
 
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The EH Holy Grail is one of those pedals I'm glad I have. Normally, I use it mixed in subtly in the FX loop of my Bogner head, and it really sounds about as good as a real spring reverb. I've also used it to bridge the bright and normal inputs on bassmans and plexi 4 input amps. Then, I can use the normal volume to mix in reverb and more bottom end. It's one of the few pedals that sounds good plugged right into the front of an amp. I like it best in the loop. A very useful pedal to have.
 
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Hey GJer, Did you ever get to A/B the HG with the Verbzilla? Curious minds wanna know?:laugh2:
 
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Gearjoneser
Thanks man, but it is a digital reverb in the end right ?
 
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I think the Danelectro Spring King is an actual spring tank reverb. If it's not, it still has an all analog signal path. Those get pretty good reviews, and they go for about $150 brand new.

Alternates to that Guyatone ($500) I listed, for fun, include a Soldano spring tank reverb ($600), and the Fender '63 reissue ($400). But the Dano might be the one you're looking for.
 
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baritone
Dude you are a savior, I just listened to Danelectro Spring Kingsamples on MF its AWESOME its definately on my list I could hear the monsterosity of chorussed overdriven riffage with that Laney AOR touch, that's it, and it as analog warm as diper on baby's ass. Thanks man, problem solved.
 
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Noooooooo ! It has no tubes in it, how could you ever live with yourself if you bought that ?
 
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I never heard of anyone refering to a reverb pedal as "analog." I thought it was either like the spring kind with tubes in it or digital... Maybe I'm not exactly sure what analog means.

I heard good things about the Danelectro Spring King, but the Holy Grail is so so good and it's not your average digital reverb. And of course, all those Tube Reverb units (Fender, Guyatone and other boutique brands like Clark) are awesome but so expensive. They are really different from a normal reverb pedal, they give your amp a whole different feel and really liven up the sound. It's hard to explain, but they are really really sweet.
 
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Danelectro Spring King is not tube but it ain't DIGITAL right??? all i care about if that's an analog, I mean it sounded really sweet, someday I will get guytone or Fender 63 but for now Spring King has what it takes for me. Can you guys elaborate for moranic me, what exactly is "spring" reverb technology
 
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Some crappy mp3's are good enough to run after a pedal ? Oh well, as long as you can say it "ain't" digital, somebody like you should be safe.

What happened to trying out stuff instead of reading about it before buying ? Ah yes, internet ..
 
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Let's get our terminology straight here. Any reverb you're going to use for guitar has to be either spring or digital. Other forms of analog reverb (plate, for example) are only practical in the studio.

A spring reverb has springs, in an assembly called the reverb tank (or reverb pan). At one end, there's a little speaker-like thing that rattles the springs with sound from your guitar. THe sound boings down the springs to the other end, where there is a pickup that puts the sound back into your amp, where it's mixed with the dry sound.

Spring reverb tanks come in various sizes, but none small enough to fit in a normal-size stomp box. Most spring reverb units are tabletop affairs.

Spring reverbs are all analog, but they can be tube or solid-state. This applies to the little amplifiers needed to drive the spring and re-amplify the resulting reverb signal. Tube or SS, they still use springs.

Most modern reverb pedals are digital, even if they have the word "spring" in their name. Digital reverbs usually model several kinds of reverb, including spring; others include plate and hall. Digital models of reverb can be very convincing.

It looks like I was wrong about the Holy Grail - I thought it had a tube to add warmth to it's digital reverb, but apparently not.

BTW, I agree with those who say that there's nothing wrong with some non-tube effects connected to a tube amp. That AOR is gonna supply all the tube warmth you need and then some.

Shop around, and don't be fooled by misleading names containing the word "spring".
 
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I never compared the Holy Grail to the L6 Verbzilla, but I have compared it to the spring reverb in my other amps. The only reason to hate digital is that sometimes when you whack the strings really hard, it makes the IC's clip, and it makes a metallic ping noise. That was usually the case with 80's 16 bit digital, but not with newer 24 bit stuff. I don't honestly know what's in the Holy Grail, but it sounds like a natural spring reverb when you're using it at normal levels.....just enough to wet the signal. The single knob is enough to adjust the amount of reverb. I think I bought my Holy Grail used for $65, and it's probably the most useful reverb unit I've ever bought.
 
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I have the DigiTech DigiVerb, which is digital, and it has a bunch of modes an parameters which can be adjusted. The "pinging" sound is only present on the "spring reverb" mode, and I think they did that on purpose. I am totally content with the sound of that pedal, as I only use subtle amounts of reverb. The Holy Grail only has that switch to access the 3 modes and only one knob, but I find that it sounds a lot more natural than other digital reverb pedals. I am still thinking of getting one.
 
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V!N,
Dude, do you have some sort on an issue with me or is it just the teenage hormon juice kicking in??? I never buy stuff with out trying, now grab that playboy and off to the bathroom you go.

baritone,
So the Spring king is all analog right ???
Thanks again.
 
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Quite a mature response ..

It galls me that just about every bit of gear that youngsters buy is about "spouting cool specs about it on the web". Like buying an early seventies NMV Marshall (cool huh ?) and then using it clean to amplify a Line6 ..
Without giving good digital reverbs a chance at all, you're absolutely sure you want to have an analogue one.

I'm getting too old to post here ..
 
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