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My c1978 Seymour-wound JB works in any guitar I've put it in, Mahogany SG and Les Paul included. My 2010+ stock shop floor JB hasn't sounded good in anything yet.
 
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To me, the JB sort of imparts its distinctive sound on everything. In many cases it overtakes the tonal sound of the wood and hardware, and does its thing.
Well im not surprised at the response to this thread...the JB works well in just about any guitar/type of wood/type of fretboard...I imagine it does so well in such a varied field of materials and body shape is because as a few of you have stated the JB imparts its own particular flavor on the instrument...even to the point of taking over tonally
 
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BeauBrummels said------"My c1978 Seymour-wound JB works in any guitar I've put it in, Mahogany SG and Les Paul included. My 2010+ stock shop floor JB hasn't sounded good in anything yet."

Thats too bad, about your 2010+ JB,
I certainly dig it in my Ibanez as73 (semi-hollow body/ all maple) it was cool in my Gibson SG but I prefer the Custom for the SG

Ive got an 89' JB wound by Glora O. but i havent loaded her up yet...i need one more guitar...maybe a gibson/epiphone/esp-ltd Viper: Flying V....that is where
i would like to try my vintage JB....thoughts?
 
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The trembucker JB has kind of grown on me in an alder humbucker strat. I just ordered a custom shop antiquity JB for it and hoping it might be a better fit. Hope it is worth the coin. I have another older Fender HM that seems to like the 59 better than the JB's.
 
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I to have a love/hate relationship with the JB. I have used many in numerous guitars in different configurations. I have a JB8 in my Charvel San Dimas pro Mod and it about as perfect of a rock/metal pickup as you can get. I think the JB wind really likes the RCA8 mag i put in it.

As alot of you know, the JB can get sort of tiresome on the high mid presence it has however, I really like the pick attack that this presents. I dont know of another pickup that has this quality.

I also have a custom shop "Concept Trembucker" that MJ made for me in the custom shop that sounds amazing as well. I had it in a USA Strat but decided to sell the guitar (and keep the pickup).

I have a 35th Anniversary JB/Jazz set that i plan to put in a 2001 Les Paul Custom (I really cant stand the 498T/490R set that comes stock). I think this will be a perfect pickup combo for this guitar.

I do have a JB-M that resides in a Relec'd Japanese Epiphone Les Paul Standard with 50s wiring schematic (bought it that way). I like the tone, but it doesn't punch me in the chest enough, so that will be replaced down the road with a very relec'd DDJ and JNJ in the neck.

I recently put a Lydia Daniels wound JB into a 80s Charvel Model 3A that i put a ceramic mag into (with a Lydia Daniels 59N from the same vintage) and damn, wow....this guitar just screams yet retains awesome tone. I really think the JB is great mag swaps. I think the Ceramic is great but the A8 maybe just perfect.

I also have a zebra JBJ that is waiting for the right guitar as well as a Allan Holdsworth AH1BJ (some say its a double screw JB) that is going to go into a Charvel Model 3DR. Looking forward to this.
 
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"JB" sounds great on my Epiphone LP in the bridge position. Mahogany body, not sure for the neck's wood is it maple or is it magonay too. Also I'm satisfied with Trembucker JB on my Tom Delonge Stratocaster, which has alder body, rather thin maple neck with rosewood. But with Charvel 375 Deluxe TB-4 has lots of treble and very little low mids, comparing to the middle and the neck pickups. Basswood dinky body, maple neck with maple rosewood. I think this guitar need some more dark humbucker for the bridge to make this guitar more balanced between all the pickups.

All pots are 500k.
 
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I to have a love/hate relationship with the JB. I have used many in numerous guitars in different configurations. I have a JB8 in my Charvel San Dimas pro Mod and it about as perfect of a rock/metal pickup as you can get. I think the JB wind really likes the RCA8 mag i put in it.

As alot of you know, the JB can get sort of tiresome on the high mid presence it has however, I really like the pick attack that this presents. I dont know of another pickup that has this quality.

I also have a custom shop "Concept Trembucker" that MJ made for me in the custom shop that sounds amazing as well. I had it in a USA Strat but decided to sell the guitar (and keep the pickup).

I have a 35th Anniversary JB/Jazz set that i plan to put in a 2001 Les Paul Custom (I really cant stand the 498T/490R set that comes stock). I think this will be a perfect pickup combo for this guitar.

I do have a JB-M that resides in a Relec'd Japanese Epiphone Les Paul Standard with 50s wiring schematic (bought it that way). I like the tone, but it doesn't punch me in the chest enough, so that will be replaced down the road with a very relec'd DDJ and JNJ in the neck.

I recently put a Lydia Daniels wound JB into a 80s Charvel Model 3A that i put a ceramic mag into (with a Lydia Daniels 59N from the same vintage) and damn, wow....this guitar just screams yet retains awesome tone. I really think the JB is great mag swaps. I think the Ceramic is great but the A8 maybe just perfect.

I also have a zebra JBJ that is waiting for the right guitar as well as a Allan Holdsworth AH1BJ (some say its a double screw JB) that is going to go into a Charvel Model 3DR. Looking forward to this.

Wow, you have a great pickups collection. There's a JBJ for sale on my market, thought a little about taking it...

A little offtop, does your Charvel Model 3A have a 5-way switch?
 
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500t = Duncan Distortion. I can see that in a Les Paul.

Literally, is the 500T made for Gibson by SD, or are you simply offering an approximation? I always hated the 500T and knowing it is the same as the DD would prevent me from ever trying one.
 
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It's not the same as the Duncan Distortion. It's just kinda similar. Both are hot, bright, gritty, and grindy.

The 500T is wound to somewhere around 15K, the DD is wound to around 16K. The 500T has a triple ceramic magnet structure, the DD has a single oversized ceramic mag.

Gibson make the 500T themselves.
 
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I have had multiple JB's, as they came stock in my favorite type of guitar, the USA Dean Hardtail. I have disliked most of them, too upper middy for me and lack of bass. In one of my Hardtail's however, it actually sounded rather good, even though I ultimately replaced it, I wish I would have kept that one. It was a circa 2002, maybe earlier as it came in a guitar produced in January of 2002. It might have been a 2001, regardless.

I also acquired a very early model JB-D, before there were any markings on the baseplate, so very early production. It has a similar character but a very different overall tone than modern JB's. Officially, nothing has changed with regard to materials in production, but I can tell you from direct A/B comparison that the old JB sounds very different. It has the "sweetness in the upper register that people talk about, but the upper mid spike is not overpowering. I think is has better lows than current models and an overall more organic feel.

I've found the same to be true with other "older" SD pickups. Maybe the wire manufacturer is different or the magnets were sourced elsewhere or the bobbins are somehow different.... screws/slugs/spacers....who knows what all could have "changed" even though the technical specs remain the same. SD was a much smaller company then with more intimate processes.... dozens of possible factors. What I know is that 80's and earlier pickups sound different and in many cases (to my ears) better.

YMMV will vary of course and these are just my opinions, but whenever I get a chance to buy a vintage SD pup model that I would use, I grab it.

To the original question, I like the JB best in strata style bodies with bolt on necks. I like a rosewood neck to help add some warmth. It doesn't suck with a maple neck in something like Alder or Mahogany or Basswood.... something not so bright. But plenty of great songs were made with JB in Ash with Maple board, so there you go.
 
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I have had multiple JB's, as they came stock in my favorite type of guitar, the USA Dean Hardtail. I have disliked most of them, too upper middy for me and lack of bass. In one of my Hardtail's however, it actually sounded rather good, even though I ultimately replaced it, I wish I would have kept that one. It was a circa 2002, maybe earlier as it came in a guitar produced in January of 2002. It might have been a 2001, regardless.

I also acquired a very early model JB-D, before there were any markings on the baseplate, so very early production. It has a similar character but a very different overall tone than modern JB's. Officially, nothing has changed with regard to materials in production, but I can tell you from direct A/B comparison that the old JB sounds very different. It has the "sweetness in the upper register that people talk about, but the upper mid spike is not overpowering. I think is has better lows than current models and an overall more organic feel.

I've found the same to be true with other "older" SD pickups. Maybe the wire manufacturer is different or the magnets were sourced elsewhere or the bobbins are somehow different.... screws/slugs/spacers....who knows what all could have "changed" even though the technical specs remain the same. SD was a much smaller company then with more intimate processes.... dozens of possible factors. What I know is that 80's and earlier pickups sound different and in many cases (to my ears) better.

YMMV will vary of course and these are just my opinions, but whenever I get a chance to buy a vintage SD pup model that I would use, I grab it.

To the original question, I like the JB best in strata style bodies with bolt on necks. I like a rosewood neck to help add some warmth. It doesn't suck with a maple neck in something like Alder or Mahogany or Basswood.... something not so bright. But plenty of great songs were made with JB in Ash with Maple board, so there you go.

Over the years the magnet has probably degaussed and that’s what you are hearing. They also used to use rough cast magnets until maybe sometime in the 90’s. But the degaussing is most likely the biggest factor.
 
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Wow, you have a great pickups collection. There's a JBJ for sale on my market, thought a little about taking it...

A little offtop, does your Charvel Model 3A have a 5-way switch?

No it just has a 3 day switch. My Charvel San Dimas pro mod has the 5 way with coil tap for tons of tonal possibilities.
 
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I've tried the JB in a few different guitars.. it definitely takes on a distinctive character in any wood. It is powerful and I can understand why people like it; however, I'm not crazy about the JB unless I roll that tone pot off quite a bit. It is way too trebly and bright IMO.

The Gibson 500T is sweet. Has a nice full, warm sound with powerful output. When the volume and tone pots are wide open, I liken the sound to a good tube amp.. it just gets sweeter. Backing off the volume allows me to get either very clean tones or crunchy rhythm sounds. I've never played a Duncan Distortion on my rig (only at the store) so I can't give it a fair review. I would choose the 500T over JB for my higher gain needs.

My favorite Seymour Duncan bridge pickup is the Custom 5. Has a warm, full bodied sound with slightly scooped mids, and PAF qualities to the tone. It is my favorite bridge pickup. My main guitars that I switch between have either the 500T or Custom 5 in the bridge... just depends on the music we playing. My Custom 5 has coil tapping on it so I can get some strat-like sounds out of it. Very diverse pickup.. can't recommend it enough if anybody is seeking a bridge replacement.
 
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I've tried the JB in a few different guitars.. it definitely takes on a distinctive character in any wood. It is powerful and I can understand why people like it; however, I'm not crazy about the JB unless I roll that tone pot off quite a bit. It is way too trebly and bright IMO.

The Gibson 500T is sweet. Has a nice full, warm sound with powerful output. When the volume and tone pots are wide open, I liken the sound to a good tube amp.. it just gets sweeter. Backing off the volume allows me to get either very clean tones or crunchy rhythm sounds. I've never played a Duncan Distortion on my rig (only at the store) so I can't give it a fair review. I would choose the 500T over JB for my higher gain needs.

My favorite Seymour Duncan bridge pickup is the Custom 5. Has a warm, full bodied sound with slightly scooped mids, and PAF qualities to the tone. It is my favorite bridge pickup. My main guitars that I switch between have either the 500T or Custom 5 in the bridge... just depends on the music we playing. My Custom 5 has coil tapping on it so I can get some strat-like sounds out of it. Very diverse pickup.. can't recommend it enough if anybody is seeking a bridge replacement.

I to also love the 500T. I have one in one in a Les Paul Custom and it just sounds so good for heavy riffs. It has been in that guitar since 1996. Could be my favorite high output humbucker of all time. It has alot of everything it seems in terms of eq. I also just put one in a Charvel Model 2 and it just sounds crushing for metal! Huge low end without a tone pot. I think the tone pot on the LP sort of chokes it off a bit. I may upgrade to a 500k tone pot (pretty sure it is a 300K original from the late 80s).
 
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Hi guys,
Have made the comparison of "JB" (TB-4) and Suhr SSV+ F-Spaced. Both are ok about spacing because my strat has 52.5 mm.
Suhr sounds interesting to me with this guitar. Strat sounds like strat, not some guitar with humbucker in the bridge position.


 
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I have a few JBs in a few guitars. Right now I'd have to say that my favorite is my Charvel Dreamsicle. Alder body, bolt on maple neck, ebony fretboard, single 500k volume and no tone. Yeah, it's bright, but it's also fairly articulate in that guitar.
 
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I have a few JBs in a few guitars. Right now I'd have to say that my favorite is my Charvel Dreamsicle. Alder body, bolt on maple neck, ebony fretboard, single 500k volume and no tone. Yeah, it's bright, but it's also fairly articulate in that guitar.

I think all maple neck/fretboard guitars are more articulate. I'd like to find some Charvel Strathead maple neck to attach it to my Fender Strat, haha.
 
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I think all maple neck/fretboard guitars are more articulate. I'd like to find some Charvel Strathead maple neck to attach it to my Fender Strat, haha.

Well, the thing is, most of my JBs are in Jackson Dinkys, which are almost the same guitar. The body shape is slightly different, and two of the Dinkys have rosewood boards and one has a maple fretboard instead of ebony. And even the DK2M isn't as articulate as the Dreamsicle. The biggest difference, imho, is the tone knob. I could do the scraping trick and turn the tone pots in the Dinkys into no load pots, but I haven't got around to it.

And if you want a Charvel neck, check out the Stratosphere on eBay. :)
 
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FYI, Fender and Charvel necks have different neck pocket sizes. Fender is 2 3/16 and Charvel is 2 1/4.
 
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Of course it's totally subjective, but the JB can really enhance or destroy the natural character of your guitar depending on what your guitar is made of/with, what you're plugging in to and what you're playing.

I find that in an alder/ash body with stainless saddles (can be a Floyd Rose, fender or others) and a rosewood fingerboard the nasal honk balances out and sounds musical in a band mix. This often sounds good in to a Marshall voiced amp for heavy blues through rock to metal. Fender voiced amps (e.g. Fenders themselves, Boogies...) take a lot of coaxing to get a good sound with this combo. - Here the JB like a 300K log volume pot and a 500K linear no load tone or no tone at all.

With a Les paul type guitar (mahogany/maple cap) it can work well up to 70's rock grit, pushing it harder means the bass gets flabby and produces a nasty interaction with bass guitars. Under the condition that you don't go to town with gain here, this combo like Fender and Marshall voiced amps. This combo doesn't Vox amps with my touch. For this combo the JB likes a 250K log volume pot and a 500K linear tone pot

Anything with a maple or ebony fingerboard - DON'T DO IT! It's brittle, honky and all things bad

Not my thing, but in a bridge humbucker tele that has a rosewood fingerboard, the JB sounds great for country/honky tonk stuff - just leave the bass down or it's kind of mushy. Of course you want a Fender voiced amp here and 500K log volumes and 500K linear tones

Those are my two cents, but I hope they help
 
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