Another old song from 1982

75lespaul

75lespaul

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Here's another tune, although I probably won't finish it for awhile, from 1982. Same session as the other one where it was just guitar, bass, drums with a mic hung from a pipe in the middle of the room going into a cassette player. I was eighteen, the bass player seventeen, and the drummer around fifteen. I added some acoustic 12, two rhythm guitars to fatten it up, and vocals yesterday. Some muffs and not sounding too great, but for a 30 year old tape, I thought it sounded okay, lol.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=652921&songID=9963893
 
Re: Another old song from 1982

Smells like The Who, early Rush and a smidgen of Boston all stirred together.

This is not the first time that you have posted one of these reworked recordings and prefaced it with an apology. Stop apologising. Let the music speak for itself. Of course, the recordings are imperfect but, in the present, this makes a refreshing change from all of the sanitised commercial music available elsewhere.
 
Re: Another old song from 1982

Funkfingers said:
Smells like The Who, early Rush and a smidgen of Boston all stirred together.

This is not the first time that you have posted one of these reworked recordings and prefaced it with an apology. Stop apologising. Let the music speak for itself. Of course, the recordings are imperfect but, in the present, this makes a refreshing change from all of the sanitised commercial music available elsewhere.
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Funk is on the money as usual. But still, your music is good, it sounds good, not bad going for a 30 year old tape! :)
 
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The combination of the original recording being on domestic cassette and the presentation here being mp3 has resulted in there being very little low end.

If this song is now stored on a computer somewhere, I suggest that somebody trawls through the entire song, marking whenever the kick drum pedal beater lands. Find a good, deep kick drum sample or two and manually position them in time on a discreet audio track. Possibly, even, find a second, clicky beater sample and synchronise that into a second discreet track. Blend to taste.

If there is a bass guitar on the original recording, it has all but vanished. In my opinion, this is the ideal opportunity to overdub a fresh performance of the bass line. In view of the Who/Rush/Boston comparison that I drew earlier, a Rickenbacker 4001 or 4003 would be the cherry on top of this particular cake.
 
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Arguably, there is a hint of Pink Floyd's Run Like Hell and Led Zeppelin's Achilles Last Stand about some of the rhythm guitar parts. A light application of tempo-synched delay, some Roland Dimension C chorus and wide panning would spread things out nicely and allow the original rhythm guitar peformance to come through.
 
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Totally hearing the Run Like Hell at the start.

The whole riff/instrumental section after the first verse is really cool.

Pretty awesome, dude. I'm digging it. :beerchug:
 
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Whoah! Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it. I didn't even know I was apologizing, ha ha. Probably comes from the state of mind I've been in, but I'm not looking for sympathy as there are so many others much worse than I am. Yeah, the run like hell thing came about because of the delay I put on that track. I thought it sounded cool. The headphones and monitors I used to mix this and the other song had plenty of bottom. They must not be too good for mixing then. The bass and bass pedal are very strong on my systems. As of this morning, I may have lost the Sonar recordings. My main computer is blue screening and I can't even get it running with the Windows disk. I still have the tape and the MP3s if I ever want to do this again though.

When I saw the lack of comments, I just figured it was either too "old" of a song--you know, not metal--or it was just not a good song. I remember back in 82 and 83, we were the only guys in our area that were writing and performing our own music, and it started a rash of original bands to pop up. We were always being asked left and right for copies of our recording even though there were no vocals or leads. For a minute, I was just hoping I'd catch lighting in a bottle with adulation. I know it's corny to ask for it, but I just felt the need, ha ha. Thanks again for the compliments.
 
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Funkfingers said:
The combination of the original recording being on domestic cassette and the presentation here being mp3 has resulted in there being very little low end.

If this song is now stored on a computer somewhere, I suggest that somebody trawls through the entire song, marking whenever the kick drum pedal beater lands. Find a good, deep kick drum sample or two and manually position them in time on a discreet audio track. Possibly, even, find a second, clicky beater sample and synchronise that into a second discreet track. Blend to taste.

If there is a bass guitar on the original recording, it has all but vanished. In my opinion, this is the ideal opportunity to overdub a fresh performance of the bass line. In view of the Who/Rush/Boston comparison that I drew earlier, a Rickenbacker 4001 or 4003 would be the cherry on top of this particular cake.
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Funny you should say that, he used a Rickenbacker 4001 on this recording and we were very big into Rush, Boston, Led Zeppelin, and The Who, like most kids in that era. We were also heavy into Judas Priest and Iron Maiden as well.
 
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Wow, that was great!

Reminds me of Boston meets Starcastle meets Saga; a great combo, if you ask me.
 
Re: Another old song from 1982

75lespaul said:
Funny you should say that, he used a Rickenbacker 4001 on this recording and we were very big into Rush, Boston, Led Zeppelin and The Who.
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Well, my suggestions can be interpreted in one of three ways.
1) The clicheed sounds that would be expected of that era/genre.
2) What works in context.
3) Both.

If you want to overdub a new rendition of the bass guitar part, one option is to use another Rickenbacker bass. A stereo model would permit many interesting sonic possibilities. Another way to get a "Rick" sound is to use a maple neck Fender Jazz Bass and have the bassist play exclusively with the second finger. No plectrum. No thumb.

At the time of the album Moving Pictures, Geddy Lee received numerous compliments on the sound of his Rick bass. Look at the band shots on the album sleeve and you will see only the black/maple Fender Jazz Bass with which Lee is now most strongly associated.
 
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I liked this. I'd like to hear the original recording without over dubs, maybe just some EQ and denoising.:14:
 
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Wow, that is pretty groovy man! Now I gotta go back and actually listen to the other things you've posted! haha...Really I really liked this. I can totally see the who, Rush, and Boston influence...but in a good way.
 
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Thanks for all the nice words guys. Here's a link to the original tape recording, no editing or anything, just the way it came out of the cassette recorder in 1982. Something happened to the very end over the years as you will hear the click--like someone started to record on the tape and then realized what they did and stopped it. This led to the almost ethereal sounding ending I had to make using reverb, editing, rerecording and delays. Because of a computer problem I lost the Sonar tracks to the version with new guitars and vocals, but I should be able to just import the MP3 into Sonar and add some guitar solos to it. It should sound the same, no? Anyway, thank you again!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=652921&songID=10016984
 
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