Another pickup wiring sanity check...

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thechrisl

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Hi all, I recently discovered Triple Shots and am trying to incorporate them into the latest rewiring project. I'm using an Ibanez Sabre (H/empty/H) and, long story short, I'm going to try it with 2 mini switches. No import knife switch. It's a thin GTR so no room for Push Pull pots either.

Having also discovered a brilliant scheme for master series/parallel wiring on 1728, I'm trying to combine that with the Triple shots for an almost Jimmy Page type setup.

I wanted to see if anyone can see any issues with this set up, mainly hum or ground related. The notes in the diagram explain how the toggles work. Let me know what you think. Thanks as always!

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In your drawing, both TS white output conductors appear to be permanently physically linked across two terminals of one of the on/on switches and, then, onwards to the volume pot. This negates all of the SPDT switching options.
 
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My bad. I had the internal connections showing to help me trace things out. It's been corrected above.
 
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theChrisl
Well, thanks for the praise about www.1728.com
That's my website. :1:

I see you are trying to wire a series / parallel circuit for both humbuckers. I haven't had a chance to look it over but I will.
I'll definitely will be coming back to this thread.
 
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Thanks for putting it out there. It's just what I needed. Pickup selection and series/parallel with 2 small switches.

Here is hopefully the last iteration. This incorporates what (I think) is the 50's wiring mod for 1 vol and 1 tone.

Does anyone see any red flags with this? I don't know why such a simple thing gets so complicated (in my head) but it does. :crazy:

BTW, I have a new Brobucker sitting on the bench waiting to get wired into this setup. Can't wait!

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With the diagram as it appears in post #5, the bridge HB is always on. Even in the "down up" position, internal leakage between the grounding SPDT switch contacts will mean that the bridge PU will still produce a small signal.
 
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Interesting. Isn't that always the case unless you have individual volume pots? Or will a double pole switch effectively open the signal path in two places thus making a very high resistance (though still slightly leaky)?

I just wired up a GFS Brian May Strat which allows all 3 pickups to be turned on or off. Via the screwdriver test I can hear from all three even when only one is turned "on". But the one that's on is definitely dominating the sound. The other two are much more quiet. Guess I figured it's the nature of the beast. I could always be wrong though...
 
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thechrisl
I think I see a problem with your wiring.

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The two outer wires should be the Black and Green whereas you have those as Black and White.
I'll wait for you to reply before talking any more about this.
 
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The pickups are both wired to Triple Shots which will handle the individual coil options. From the TS, you only get black-, white+ and ground wires.

So these two switches are just seeing a single output from each pickup. The SD color codes don't really matter at that point (but for the TS white is hot). Still it's hard to tell how your diagram is different.
 
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thechrisl
Here's a graphic I found on another Seymour Duncan forum thread:
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I added that bottom section.
So, it seems that the Black + wire eventually "becomes" the White + wire and
the Green - wire "becomes" the Black - wire.
I thought (incorrectly) that the wires would keep their color codes.
Anyway, I'd say your diagram is correct.
 
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Thanks, I'll do some testing tonight and see if Funkfingers' point about the bridge being perma-connected due to switch leakage is going to bother me or not.

How about the 50's wiring bit. Does that look right? Most of the reliable looking info out there just shows a picture of a Les Paul or Strat with a couple leads being moved. I have a hard time translating that into a schematic for my particular situation...
 
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OK well. For posterity's sake, this is what I'm planning to go with. SD has a wiring diagram for 2 TS w/ 1 Tone, 1 Vol, Phase and Ser/Par switches but it is a dead link. Far as I can tell, this is how it would work.

There may be a couple combos that kill the signal but the others seem right.

No comments on the 50's wiring but this is right according what I could procure from the Googles.

If you see anything that will generate an explosion of molten hum and Brobucker please do tell!

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Well... That last diagram did the trick. When the series switch is flipped, it doesn't matter what position the PU selector is in (which is good). Nice little solo boost. Pretty much the JP wiring (except for individual coil phase) with 3 toggles and 2 Triple Shots!

Not sure exactly what the 50's wiring is supposed to sound like but I like the vol/tone interaction.

This is how she turned out:

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