Another wiring question
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Artie
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Re: Another wiring question
Thats almost my same setup, except that I have a Hot Stack in the middle. Let me tell you how I have mine done, and then we can go from there:
I converted my Strat to master volume/master tone, and use the "extra" tone pot hole to mount a DPDT on-off-on switch. I replaced the 5-way with a Fender 3-way. I use the 3-way to select between neck and bridge Cool Rails like an ordinary dual-humbucker guitar. Then the switch can select the middle pup at any time, in any configuration. Split, parallel, normal, or off. (Obviuosly, you can only have three of those, and one of them must be "off".)
Let me know if thats do-able. There's other ways to accomplish it also.
Artie
Thats almost my same setup, except that I have a Hot Stack in the middle. Let me tell you how I have mine done, and then we can go from there:
I converted my Strat to master volume/master tone, and use the "extra" tone pot hole to mount a DPDT on-off-on switch. I replaced the 5-way with a Fender 3-way. I use the 3-way to select between neck and bridge Cool Rails like an ordinary dual-humbucker guitar. Then the switch can select the middle pup at any time, in any configuration. Split, parallel, normal, or off. (Obviuosly, you can only have three of those, and one of them must be "off".)
Let me know if thats do-able. There's other ways to accomplish it also.
Artie
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: Another wiring question
I'll try to describe it anyway. We'll be using an on-off-on switch, so the middle will be off, and we'll only be using one "side" of the switch.
If you want to split to the adjustable coil, do this:
The black wire goes to one end of the switch, the red/white combo to the other, and the center goes direct to "out". Which could be the common of the 3-way, or the lug of the volume control. Either way is ok.
If you want to split to the stud coil:
The black wire goes direct to the output. The green wire goes to one end of the switch, the red/white combo to the other end, and ground the center terminal.
If that doesn't make sense . . . film at eleven.
I'll try to describe it anyway. We'll be using an on-off-on switch, so the middle will be off, and we'll only be using one "side" of the switch.
If you want to split to the adjustable coil, do this:
The black wire goes to one end of the switch, the red/white combo to the other, and the center goes direct to "out". Which could be the common of the 3-way, or the lug of the volume control. Either way is ok.
If you want to split to the stud coil:
The black wire goes direct to the output. The green wire goes to one end of the switch, the red/white combo to the other end, and ground the center terminal.
If that doesn't make sense . . . film at eleven.
robrhy
New member
Re: Another wiring question
Artie...I'll wait for the diagram,i find it easier to followArtieToo said:I'll try to describe it anyway. We'll be using an on-off-on switch, so the middle will be off, and we'll only be using one "side" of the switch.
If you want to split to the adjustable coil, do this:
The black wire goes to one end of the switch, the red/white combo to the other, and the center goes direct to "out". Which could be the common of the 3-way, or the lug of the volume control. Either way is ok.
If you want to split to the stud coil:
The black wire goes direct to the output. The green wire goes to one end of the switch, the red/white combo to the other end, and ground the center terminal.
If that doesn't make sense . . . film at eleven.
robrhy
New member
Re: Another wiring question
Thanks Artie just wired this up,works perfect.ArtieToo said:Ok, do this for the middle pickup:
Fig 1 splits to the adjustable coil, Fig 2 to the stud coil. The middle position will be "off".
I think that covers it. Let me know if anything there doesn't make sense.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: Another wiring question
I'll try to describe this, and post a pic tonight. (This is just one way - btw.)
Take the ground wires of the neck and bridge, tie them together, and run them to the center lug of a push/pull pot switch. Take the lug directly below that to ground.
Take the hot wire of the middle pickup to the center lug of the other side of the PP. Take the lug directly above that to your output - bypassing all other switches.
Now, when you pull that knob, you go directly to the middle pup, bypassing any other switch configuration. It's like a "hotline" for the middle pup.
Film at eleven.
Artie
Edit: Don't do anything 'til I post a pic. Sometimes I need to "see" this to make it correct. For example, I think I need to make one little change to the middle/hot wire part of the PP. That is, run the current output of you 5-way/3-way to the bottom of the PP, middle hot to the top, and center lug to out.
I'll try to describe this, and post a pic tonight. (This is just one way - btw.)
Take the ground wires of the neck and bridge, tie them together, and run them to the center lug of a push/pull pot switch. Take the lug directly below that to ground.
Take the hot wire of the middle pickup to the center lug of the other side of the PP. Take the lug directly above that to your output - bypassing all other switches.
Now, when you pull that knob, you go directly to the middle pup, bypassing any other switch configuration. It's like a "hotline" for the middle pup.
Film at eleven.
Artie
Edit: Don't do anything 'til I post a pic. Sometimes I need to "see" this to make it correct. For example, I think I need to make one little change to the middle/hot wire part of the PP. That is, run the current output of you 5-way/3-way to the bottom of the PP, middle hot to the top, and center lug to out.
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robrhy
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Re: Another wiring question
OK Artie i'll wait for your pic.
ArtieToo said:I'll try to describe this, and post a pic tonight. (This is just one way - btw.)
Take the ground wires of the neck and bridge, tie them together, and run them to the center lug of a push/pull pot switch. Take the lug directly below that to ground.
Take the hot wire of the middle pickup to the center lug of the other side of the PP. Take the lug directly above that to your output - bypassing all other switches.
Now, when you pull that knob, you go directly to the middle pup, bypassing any other switch configuration. It's like a "hotline" for the middle pup.
Film at eleven.
Artie
Edit: Don't do anything 'til I post a pic. Sometimes I need to "see" this to make it correct. For example, I think I need to make one little change to the middle/hot wire part of the PP. That is, run the current output of you 5-way/3-way to the bottom of the PP, middle hot to the top, and center lug to out.
OK Artie i'll wait for your pic.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: Another wiring question
I pieced this together from a drawing I already had, so it doesn't show the "split" portion, but it shows the basic concept of the push/pull switch for the middle.
With the PP down, neck and bridge are grounded, and the 5-way is routed out. Lift the PP, and the ground is removed for the neck and bridge, and the middle bypasses the 5-way, going direct to out.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Artie
I pieced this together from a drawing I already had, so it doesn't show the "split" portion, but it shows the basic concept of the push/pull switch for the middle.
With the PP down, neck and bridge are grounded, and the 5-way is routed out. Lift the PP, and the ground is removed for the neck and bridge, and the middle bypasses the 5-way, going direct to out.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Artie
robrhy
New member
Re: Another wiring question
Hi Artie...I hate to ask but can you do an easier drawing that a thickhead like me can follow.Without seeing the pots and switches and where the wires should be i'm totally lost.
ArtieToo said:I pieced this together from a drawing I already had, so it doesn't show the "split" portion, but it shows the basic concept of the push/pull switch for the middle.
With the PP down, neck and bridge are grounded, and the 5-way is routed out. Lift the PP, and the ground is removed for the neck and bridge, and the middle bypasses the 5-way, going direct to out.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Artie
Hi Artie...I hate to ask but can you do an easier drawing that a thickhead like me can follow.Without seeing the pots and switches and where the wires should be i'm totally lost.
Zhangliqun
Questionologist
Re: Another wiring question
How come you didn't go with a push/pull pot so you could keep the extra tone pot?
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ArtieToo said:
How come you didn't go with a push/pull pot so you could keep the extra tone pot?
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Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: Another wiring question
I guess its just one of my "quirks", or preferences. I've never liked the second tone control on a Strat, and don't really understand its usefulness. With standard Strat wiring, (one cap, two pots), the tone would "brighten" slightly in the #2 notch position, assuming one control isn't on zero, but you'ld have no tone control for the bridge, where I like to have one.
In a two-cap, two-pot configuration, the opposite would happen. The tone would darken slightly. A subtle difference, to be sure, but its just not useful to me.
I guess I just like the master volume/master tone configuration.
P. S. Also, in this particular application, I needed an on-off-on switch, which a push/pull won't do.
Zhangliqun said:
I guess its just one of my "quirks", or preferences. I've never liked the second tone control on a Strat, and don't really understand its usefulness. With standard Strat wiring, (one cap, two pots), the tone would "brighten" slightly in the #2 notch position, assuming one control isn't on zero, but you'ld have no tone control for the bridge, where I like to have one.
In a two-cap, two-pot configuration, the opposite would happen. The tone would darken slightly. A subtle difference, to be sure, but its just not useful to me.
I guess I just like the master volume/master tone configuration.
P. S. Also, in this particular application, I needed an on-off-on switch, which a push/pull won't do.
