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Lewguitar
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I've read that the Antiquitys are wound by Seymour to duplicate the pickups in Nancy, Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele. True or false?
Thanks, Lew
Thanks, Lew
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Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
I've read the same about the Broadcaster. I've always thought the Ants were based on the '54 tele pup, which is a different animal. I haven't tried the Ants, but the Broadcaster certainly gets into Roy's tone-zone. I was just listening to Livestock yesterday. He was just such an intense player.
I've read the same about the Broadcaster. I've always thought the Ants were based on the '54 tele pup, which is a different animal. I haven't tried the Ants, but the Broadcaster certainly gets into Roy's tone-zone. I was just listening to Livestock yesterday. He was just such an intense player.
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Lewguitar
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Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
Ant's definately aren't the '54 style Tele pickup...those have raised pole pieces and the Ant's are more like the flat poled '51 - '53 Tele pickups. But all of those vary so much from one pickup to the next! Lew
Ant's definately aren't the '54 style Tele pickup...those have raised pole pieces and the Ant's are more like the flat poled '51 - '53 Tele pickups. But all of those vary so much from one pickup to the next! Lew
Curly
Moe's Bluesman
Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
well...
from the product page:
Antiquity Neck (Rhythm) Pickup for Telecaster®
This neck pickup for Telecaster® guitars is wound as a full-sounding rhythm pickup. It comes with an aged, deep drawn cover for vintage looks and added coil protection. The neck pickup comes with schematic and mounting screws. Each pickup re-creates the look and sound of an aged early '50s pickup. The pickup comes complete with screws, schematics and vintage "push back" cloth braid hookup wire.
Antiquity Bridge (Lead) Pickup for Telecaster®
I have a great time re-creating the beauty of an early '50s lead pickup Tele®. Using vintage techniques, each pickup is hand-fabricated and scatter-wound. All parts of the pickup are aged and given the look of a pickup played for 40 years! Like the originals, the ferrous bottom plates are not wax-potted for that "breakin'-up Tele twang tone" that's just on the verge of feedback. The pickups are Dun-Aged™ and come with mounting hardware, schematics, and tons of tone! The hookup wire is the classic "p back" cloth braid wire.
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Vintage for Broadcaster®
STL-1b - The first Telecaster® pickup (1948) had an unprecedented edgy sound and great sustain. Leo Fender called it the Broadcaster®, and we make one exactly like it. The STL-1b duplicates this fat, most sought-after vintage sound. The pole pieces are larger diameter, Dun-Aged™ magnets. Replace both your rhythm and lead pickups to get the classic Broadcaster sound that started a legend.
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it looks like all three were based on early 50's pickups - the Vintage '54 was the one based on the ... uh, '54 ...
I didn't see the part about these being based on Nancy, but I'll keep looking. I'm sure Seymour's listened to a lot of Roy's playing, since he likes teles. ...
I think the Broadcaster in my ash tele gets that early bite, and it's probably better if paired with a nice warm amp
well...
from the product page:
Antiquity Neck (Rhythm) Pickup for Telecaster®
This neck pickup for Telecaster® guitars is wound as a full-sounding rhythm pickup. It comes with an aged, deep drawn cover for vintage looks and added coil protection. The neck pickup comes with schematic and mounting screws. Each pickup re-creates the look and sound of an aged early '50s pickup. The pickup comes complete with screws, schematics and vintage "push back" cloth braid hookup wire.
Antiquity Bridge (Lead) Pickup for Telecaster®
I have a great time re-creating the beauty of an early '50s lead pickup Tele®. Using vintage techniques, each pickup is hand-fabricated and scatter-wound. All parts of the pickup are aged and given the look of a pickup played for 40 years! Like the originals, the ferrous bottom plates are not wax-potted for that "breakin'-up Tele twang tone" that's just on the verge of feedback. The pickups are Dun-Aged™ and come with mounting hardware, schematics, and tons of tone! The hookup wire is the classic "p back" cloth braid wire.
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Vintage for Broadcaster®
STL-1b - The first Telecaster® pickup (1948) had an unprecedented edgy sound and great sustain. Leo Fender called it the Broadcaster®, and we make one exactly like it. The STL-1b duplicates this fat, most sought-after vintage sound. The pole pieces are larger diameter, Dun-Aged™ magnets. Replace both your rhythm and lead pickups to get the classic Broadcaster sound that started a legend.
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it looks like all three were based on early 50's pickups - the Vintage '54 was the one based on the ... uh, '54 ...
I didn't see the part about these being based on Nancy, but I'll keep looking. I'm sure Seymour's listened to a lot of Roy's playing, since he likes teles. ...
I think the Broadcaster in my ash tele gets that early bite, and it's probably better if paired with a nice warm amp
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Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
Thanks Curly. I followed the link to the Roy Buchanan site Scott provided and then went to the Nancy Relic page http://www.rhsdesign.com/fender51/RB53tele1.htm the same page I provided a link to a couple of weeks ago by the guy who does the near perfect copies of Nancy. He says on that page that the Antiquitys are patterend after the pickups on Nancy. That's what made me ask. Lew
Thanks Curly. I followed the link to the Roy Buchanan site Scott provided and then went to the Nancy Relic page http://www.rhsdesign.com/fender51/RB53tele1.htm the same page I provided a link to a couple of weeks ago by the guy who does the near perfect copies of Nancy. He says on that page that the Antiquitys are patterend after the pickups on Nancy. That's what made me ask. Lew
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Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
This thread is three years old, so of course this link doesn't exist anymore. Any idea if there's an updated one? I'm interested in replicating that Nancy relic tone. (Yeah, like I'm the only one.)
Wondering if the Antiquities will do the trick, or if there's something better now.
- Keith
This thread is three years old, so of course this link doesn't exist anymore. Any idea if there's an updated one? I'm interested in replicating that Nancy relic tone. (Yeah, like I'm the only one.)
Wondering if the Antiquities will do the trick, or if there's something better now.
- Keith
Curly
Moe's Bluesman
Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
my opinion now, after using Antiquities, is that they are warmer pickups than what I hear from Roy's playing, or pickups made to sound like his.
Basically, Roy's '53 had a somewhat bright, "bitey" tone, so his pickups were likely somewhat underwound. Antiquities are NOT underwound. Notice that the info for Antiquities does not say they were patterned after Roy's pickups, just "early 50's" tele pickups.
early tele pickups were all over the map, output wise, even if they did have a spec, which was a certain number of turns, not a resistance.
the Antiquities are great pickups, but if someone wanted Roy's tone, I'd suggest they also consider Don Mare's "Nancy" set (buckcannon.com) -- since he has dedicated himself to Roy's music, and he's gone over all the details of that guitar.
my opinion now, after using Antiquities, is that they are warmer pickups than what I hear from Roy's playing, or pickups made to sound like his.
Basically, Roy's '53 had a somewhat bright, "bitey" tone, so his pickups were likely somewhat underwound. Antiquities are NOT underwound. Notice that the info for Antiquities does not say they were patterned after Roy's pickups, just "early 50's" tele pickups.
early tele pickups were all over the map, output wise, even if they did have a spec, which was a certain number of turns, not a resistance.
the Antiquities are great pickups, but if someone wanted Roy's tone, I'd suggest they also consider Don Mare's "Nancy" set (buckcannon.com) -- since he has dedicated himself to Roy's music, and he's gone over all the details of that guitar.
Jeffrec
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Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
Curly,
There are worse things in life. Just stiffen your upper lip and go for it:bigok:
this means I have to get a set of Antiquities
Curly,
There are worse things in life. Just stiffen your upper lip and go for it:bigok:
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
That's interesting about the Antiquities. I'd definitely be looking for that Buchanan "bitey tone" (a great description); "warm" isn't a term I'd use to describe his tone. Do you have a set of Don Mare's pickups, or have you heard/tried them? I've spoken with Don about them briefly.
- Keith
That's interesting about the Antiquities. I'd definitely be looking for that Buchanan "bitey tone" (a great description); "warm" isn't a term I'd use to describe his tone. Do you have a set of Don Mare's pickups, or have you heard/tried them? I've spoken with Don about them briefly.
- Keith
Curly
Moe's Bluesman
Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
If you're going for Roy's tone, I'd suggest you listen to the "Nancy" clips on Don's site.
I have a set of Duncans that Don rewound to his Blackguard #0038 specs, which are a hotter wind, more typical of the hotter end of early teles. Those are going in a 2 color burst that's being built now. (I am NOT going for Roy's tone.)
If you're going for Roy's tone, I'd suggest you listen to the "Nancy" clips on Don's site.
Falstaff
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Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
Don's 2324 set are supposedly able to nail the Roy tone. I had one of the OC Duff "Nancy" and that got somewhere in the ballpark (on an alder/RW guitar that also had the Ant I in it for a while) but according to some folks (ie not just Don), the 2324 is pretty much spot on. Unfortunately, there aren't many good clips of Don's pickups around.
Don's 2324 set are supposedly able to nail the Roy tone. I had one of the OC Duff "Nancy" and that got somewhere in the ballpark (on an alder/RW guitar that also had the Ant I in it for a while) but according to some folks (ie not just Don), the 2324 is pretty much spot on. Unfortunately, there aren't many good clips of Don's pickups around.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Antiquity Tele Pickups and Roy Buchanan's '53 Tele
I remember talking with Don on the phone one night when he was playing a tele loaded with the 2324 set and being blownaway by howclose he was getting to Roy's tone...granted Don knows all the right licks to play and was playing through a dimed out Vibrolux Reverb which helps but never the less, the tone was there for sure!
I remember talking with Don on the phone one night when he was playing a tele loaded with the 2324 set and being blownaway by howclose he was getting to Roy's tone...granted Don knows all the right licks to play and was playing through a dimed out Vibrolux Reverb which helps but never the less, the tone was there for sure!
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