Any tips on how to coax more kids out of a set of 59s?

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Pretty cut and dry...most people posting here, if they've tried a stock 59, and then replaced it with a rough cast magnet, they hear a difference. If anyone thinks it's a panacea, then they should try it and report their experiences.
 
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There's a YouTube video that shows a dozen different magnets in the same guitar and pickup and it's night and day for many of them. I could see different magnets along with maybe different wire making fairly different pickups even if the wind and resistance were similar.
 
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thanaton said:
Mmm, I think tripe.

Let's say for the sake argument that my meds have nothing to do with why the vintage '59 sounds better, and that i'm all psychotic. That would mean that the incorrect answer is 'on topic', and worthy of being entertained in these page, while the correct answer is 'off topic', and precluded by forum edict. Can truth really be determined in such an environment?
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AlNiCo 5 alloys can differ from one foundry to the next, not only in terms of composition, but also in differences in how they're heated and annealed, and whether they isotropic or anisotropic. This is because the crystalline structure of the alloy is as important as the constituent metals. Values such as the residual flux density and the energy product will differ from one AlNiCo magnet to another, for a given grade. Therefore, in order for a listening test to mean anything, you would first have to ensure that all those measurable properties are all the same, aside from the surface texture of the magnets. If you purchase the smooth and rough cast bars from the same supplier, you could ask them if the allows are identical, and that would at least provide some non-zero assurance.
 
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Once again we have chosen to take a simple thing like a magnet swap that resulted in an improvement to the OP's 59 frequency response and turn it into a narley mess of ridiculous posts. How I continue to let myself get caught up in this carp is a mystery. Never more.
 
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It's your thread. Just lock it when you get the answer that satisfies the question.
 
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bloomfieldriffs said:
I can post the recordings as soon as someone provides the technical/scientific explanation for the change.
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Maybe hearing the difference would help people wrap their head around the best way to explain what's going on?

A bit of everyone helping reach the goal, so to speak.
 
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bloomfieldriffs said:
I did a little research, something I mostly avoid as it makes me feel like an associate, found "PAF" tone was to a large extent brighter than today's Lester tone even to some extent a Telecaster tone...can you dig it.?
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You didn't do enough research then. There is NO "PAF" tone. All kinds of goofy pickups have been touted as THE magic mojo tone.

And of course, the amps may have had a lot to do with that too.
 
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bloomfieldriffs said:
Very off topic but Have a theory about old gear:
Music is a powerful force - one in thousands of examples; Woodstock a half a million people...
That force has an effect on everything, like everything, people, animals and inanimate objects;
The wood of a guitar is altered by music, the more powerful (qualitative) and the longer it is exposed determines the degree of the alteration.
Therefore: old gear = best gear

Now that is how to erudite sophistic tripe.
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Right up to that last phrase. And no, that isn't it at all.

People are mostly simple creatures for all the [big words I could use properly but won't committed].

Familiarity breeds liking. New requires change. Old is familiar, new is not. People prefer what they know.
 
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bloomfieldriffs said:
But what about resonant peak, inductance and all that technical stuff your so good at? If you look at the signal with a scope what do you see? Technically what is the difference between a rough and polished A5 in a 59? Why do they sound different is it magnetic field stuff?
Am convinced that it is not psychological. Recorded before and after the magnet swap through absolutely clean equipment and listened thru M-Audio BX5a monitors and high end headphones, there is a significant difference.
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oh jeez...don't bring the freaking "scope" into it.

Again - univariate thinking with no appreciation for interactions or psychophysiology....both of which are important.

Anything short of being in the room will be less than adequate, and apply only to your ears. By the time the single variable of the mag has went into the recording media, through the intarweb, and out whatever jacked up eq profile your computer has; meh. You are lucky you can still tell it's a guitar.

There are things that are physics-wise different that you can't tell. There are things you don't measure that can be perceived. And sometimes there are other factors like recording gear, the amp and a host of other things....
 
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bloomfieldriffs said:
I can post the recordings as soon as someone provides the technical/scientific explanation for the change.
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Oh my God... I've just recognized the wording.

You are the one and same person that posted in the past as "leevec5".

Did you other moniker got banned? ;)
 
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