Anyone play '80's hard rock mainly

[JeffB]

Re: Anyone play '80's hard rock mainly

It's funny you mention the JP "Turbo" tone. I had listened to "Priest...Live!", which was the Turbo tour, and then our recording of "Heading Out to the Highway" and I was floored at how close I had gotten to that tone. Doesn't bother me though, I love that tone.

Thanks for the compliment.

Actually thats what I was referring to..meant to type turbo "era" and not album.

:bigthumb:

 

[wildstar]

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One of these days I'm go back to a floorboard like a Boss GT-8. When I do I'm proigramming up the following:
Maiden - # of beast / Trooper
Priest-Screaming for Vengence/Electric Eye
Scorps -BAd Boys Running Wild / Same Thrill
AC/DC - Back in Black
Ratt - Your in Love / Round and Round
Poison - Nothin but a good time
Dokken - Mr. Scary & maybe some Lynch Mob
Journey - Stone in Love, Still they ride
Night Ranger - Don't tell me, Can't find me a thrill

And that will be a great day for mankind.

Seriously, I'm not kidding. What a tribute to kick-a$$ guitar playing!

 

[Aceman]

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My point is that this is a thread about 80's hard rock and nobody has still said what that is?!?!?@!? I'm reading about JP Turbo....First, that album sucks IMO. That said- they used those hex-pickups to add independent digital distortion to each string. It's a really neat sound. Wouldn't put in the tone hall of fame, but, still interesting. And as for Ratt etc...that no-bass tone really works when you have a thudding bass and those mongo double kick drums. A lot of bass in the guitar would just crap up the overall sound. But if 80's hard rock means back in black/for those about to rock - which it could; What's not to like? All that stuff I listed is good if you like it. So what do you like?

 

[theodie]

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As a fan of mainly late 80's early 90's hard rock tones, I was wondering if anyone else here still plays with those tones most of the time.

What pickup do you use achieve your scream :bigthumb:?

I do, it depends on the guitar! My favorites are the Custom, Full Shred, and Custom 5. It all depends on your guitar and what flavor you are looking for!

 

[Reckless Abandon]

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I do I use a JB

 

[Jackson Distortion]

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When I originally meant 'hard rock', I meant what is disparingly called 'hair metal', but then I realized I could get more responses by broadining it to hard rock.

I don't quite dig the term 'hair metal', but then again, I wasn't there-- maybe grooming did sometimes take precedent over the music. Some dudes had the chops, but also had the blow... blow dryer that is.

 

[Kac]

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I did a while back, and since I've not been playing with a band lately I've been gettin' back to my "roots" with 80's KISS stuff... The JB is the pickup for me.

Rock On ~ Kac

 

[ErikH]

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Sorry you feel that way about the Turbo album. Yes, it's different, but I like it. And I was referring to the tone off Priest....Live! I like a lot of the 80's stuff. Heck, those are the years of me growing up and being a teenager. KISS, Van Halen and Motley Crue ruled my book. Ratt was/is another fav, Dokken, Maiden, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Accept, Krokus, Whitesnake (now there's a killer tone, John Sykes on the Whitesnake album), White Lion, Grim Reaper, Dio, Ozzy, Scorpions, W.A.S.P., the list goes on and on. Some of the guitar tones I liked, some I didn't.

All that said, I use/used the Custom Custom and Jazz for all of it. And now aside from the CC and Jazz, the Brobucker and DiMarzio Air Zone and PAF.

 

[strangegrey]

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the JB

I don't believe this is acurate.

From what I understand, Vito recorded Pride on a beat up strat with a 59 in the bridge. He later had ESP make him a bunch of strats with JBs in the bridge for live work (and to later use on Big Game, until he went EMG)...but the album was recorded with a 59 loaded strat that, according to an interview I read back in the 80s, died very shortly after or just before Pride was mixed.

He also plugged into a Tubescreamer...and then into a marshall...I'm still trying to determine if the marshall he plugged into was a jcm800 or some variety of plexi derivative...the amount of acurate info on the net regarding his setup is very very sketchy. (so if anyone has anything to add, I'm all ears)

Now having said that, is there much difference between a JB going right into an amp or a 59 into a tubescreamer into an amp...I dunno...I've never played a 59 loaded strat...but when I had a JB in one of my guitars in the 80s, I marvelled at how the JB did an amazing job of nailing vito's killer percussive tone on hungry and wait....

 

[JammerMatt]

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Sorry you feel that way about the Turbo album. Yes, it's different, but I like it. And I was referring to the tone off Priest....Live! I like a lot of the 80's stuff. Heck, those are the years of me growing up and being a teenager. KISS, Van Halen and Motley Crue ruled my book. Ratt was/is another fav, Dokken, Maiden, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Accept, Krokus, Whitesnake (now there's a killer tone, John Sykes on the Whitesnake album), White Lion, Grim Reaper, Dio, Ozzy, Scorpions, W.A.S.P., the list goes on and on. Some of the guitar tones I liked, some I didn't.

That sounds like me talking. I, for one, absolutely loved the Turbo tone. I know, it's all processed, etc. And honestly, at first I didn't like it. But after awhile it really grew on me, and I wish I could get that tone. Also, that Live Turbo tone is great as well.

As for that 1987 Whitesnake album... LP through a Marshall never sounded better IMO.

 

[Jackson Distortion]

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Anyone know what Warren DeMartini's rig was in '86 during the Dancing Undercover album-- I loved that tone on through to the slighty different tone on Detonator.

I'm not a fan of their early tone, nor any early 80's tones-- too crude.

 

[JeffB]

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As for that 1987 Whitesnake album... LP through a Marshall never sounded better IMO.

That album was all MESA. Colliseum 300W heads (basically a MKIII) :bigthumb:

 

[strangegrey]

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That album was all MESA. Colliseum 300W heads (basically a MKIII) :bigthumb:

Yeah, Mesa Colliseum heads....I read the same thing.

I tell ya, I can't even imagine. I play various 18 watt amps and those are loud enough...to record with 300watters...my god!

 

[ErikH]

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Yeah, Mesa Colliseum heads....I read the same thing.

I tell ya, I can't even imagine. I play various 18 watt amps and those are loud enough...to record with 300watters...my god!

The fun part is that sometimes, the players aren't in the same room as their amp when recording. The amp/cab will be in some isolated booth sometimes so they can crank the p*ss out of it and really get the power tubes cooking. This isn't/wasn't done all the time though but it's not/wasn't uncommon either.

 

[strangegrey]

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The fun part is that most of the time, the players aren't in the same room as their amp. The amp/cab will be in some isolated booth sometimes so they can crank the p*ss out of it and really get the power tubes cooking. This isn't/wasn't done all the time though but it's not/wasn't uncommon either.

Well, yeah...obviously...

But 300 watts...what an ungodly waste of tube...to record with all that glass. It makes no sense..

Plus...I gotta add, with 300 watts, you would need the amp in another building for it not to damage your hearing!

 

[ErikH]

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With it in another room, you'd hear only what comes through the monitors which is easily controlled. But yeah, it'd be damn loud, not too mention the walls would be rattling.

It makes no sense to record with a 10 watt transistor amp either but it's been done.

 

[JeffB]

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I can tell ya what...I wouldn't want to be in the same room with it either.

I've played a Marshall Major through a couple 4x12's.

It was fun.

For about 2 minutes.

It's pretty bad@$$ and scary at the same time when you play an amp that makes a SuperL or SuperB sound like a kitten (volume-wise..the major was actually smoother-less raw sounding).

I've seen pics of John recording during the Whitesnake era and he was in with the amps but in headphones. Prolly so he could get the feel and feedback, etc. I don't know for which album the pics were though. All I could see were Marshall cabs, and he always used Marshall cabs, not MESA. I'll say this...he's one of the very few artists who I wish would have stayed with MESA and not gone back to Marshalls. Barring the Tygers era, his Marshall tones are not that great.

Sorry for the hijack

 

[DeanSweden]

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Ritchie used modified 200 watt Marshall Majors with two extra tubes built into an extra output stage. These 280 watt beasts are purportedly the loudest guitar amps ever made, and Ritchie ran them full-out

:arms:

 

[JeffB]

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:arms:

Yeah...and he's insane! :bigthumb:

Most Marshalls pump out quite a bit more Watts than they are rated for anyways. The Major I played was stock, and it made me :crying:

 

[JammerMatt]

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That album was all MESA. Colliseum 300W heads (basically a MKIII) :bigthumb:

Dang, learn something new every day. Nevertheless, great tone.

Now what was the subject? Oh yeah, in the Duncan line: Distortion, JB, Custom.... Jazz in the neck. Okay I'm done hijacking as well.