Anyone remember this??

[Telesexual]

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Anyone who can say that that was a terrible performance isn't looking at it the right way. Those weren't "solo's" inbetween the lines of the song. He was using the guitar to coax out the sounds of bombs, airplanes, machine guns, screaming etc. It was to make a point, about the Vietnam War and war in general. Personally, listening to this the first time last summer when I started playing guitar was more of an inspiration then any Van Halen song. Jimi was the original guitar god

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[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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Ergo: words

 

[Majestic]

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I think it blows, too. It sounds sh*tty, flat-out.

But Jimi's style, or form of expression, is exactly what opened people's eyes to how a guitar *could* sound, if people opened their minds and considered other possibilities.

That's where, from a technical perspective, his technical relevance still stands. Much like EVH. He broke the boundaries.

As far as songs go, which of course, is still the most important thing, his tunes are still incredible.

I always say that EVH's 20th best song is probably what, "Beautiful Girls" and for my money, nothing Satriani or Vai have ever written are even as good as that tune (they're more like instrumentalists or conductors, like the John Williams of electric guitar). My favorite Vai tune, for instance, is "Call it Sleep", but I don't wanna listen to it every day like I do "Panama".

The same applies, in my world, to Hendrix, who I don't care for AT ALL as a sololist. His tunes are still incredible, just freaking incredible. Few guitarists write guitar-based songs as good as him, if at all. And I'm not a "fan". I'm more or less "impressed as hell". What he did is just sick. And those tunes still stand. That's mind-boggling.

 

[DLT]

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There is a really cool studio version of the Star Spangled Banner on...I believe it is called "The Complete Hendrix" CD. Ever hear it???

 

[walt]

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There is a really cool studio version of the Star Spangled Banner on...I believe it is called "The Complete Hendrix" CD. Ever hear it???

I believe it was also on the Rainbow Bridge sound track. The Woodstock version is the famous one. It got lots of yays and nays, I personally thought it was a brilliant piece of art then and it still is today!

 

[Inferno]

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I understand the purpose of the song. It's a shame so many don't get it...

 

[stratomaster]

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I think it was a statement about the times he was living in, and the he was using his strat to create sounds of war, panic, bombs etc. I think if some of you out there that don't like it try listening to it with your eyes closed and see if brings out a mental picture you may change your mind about the song. Or you may still think its sucks, I'm really not all that smart.

 

[ledzepp29]

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It's amazing how different people can interpret one thing completely different. I get tingles when I watch that, its perfect in what it is, which is the statement he was making. It's like when Jimi played he was so far beyond thinking about technicalities, it was all feeling and vibes. You know the technicality he is capable of by listening to songs like little wing and castles made of sand. He didn't think in the way of being fancy or playing impressively, he was on a whole other planet. Kinda like with the impressionists and the other radical art movements where people critisized it for being garbage but they didn't see the big picture.

 

[Peterku]

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Hmm... I think I'm starting to see the point. Reading a little bit about the Woodstock era and its historical context has made it clear to me. Now it makes sense to me. A LOT of sense.

 

[walt]

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It's amazing how different people can interpret one thing completely different. I get tingles when I watch that, its perfect in what it is, which is the statement he was making. It's like when Jimi played he was so far beyond thinking about technicalities, it was all feeling and vibes. You know the technicality he is capable of by listening to songs like little wing and castles made of sand. He didn't think in the way of being fancy or playing impressively, he was on a whole other planet. Kinda like with the impressionists and the other radical art movements where people critisized it for being garbage but they didn't see the big picture.

Couldn't have said it better myself!! :beerchug: You really can't compare a VanHalen tune to a Hendrix tune (imho). I believe that while it's cool to hear the crowd cheer when you do 2 handed tapping, I believe that it's equally (if not more) cool to take that same crowd on a mental journey thru self expression. Dont get me wrong I like Eddie VanHalen and have incorporated some of his style in my playing, but Jimi's "blues roots" make him a true artist and master of his instrument that hasn't been duplicated which is why to me, he is the ulitimate guitar god.

 

[Tux789]

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sounds like he reallly would have enjoyed a floyd rose

 

[wickedmartini]

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I understand the purpose of the song. It's a shame so many don't get it...

While I agree and respect the fact that everyone has their own opinion I just think some people are not able to think outside of their own reality. Like it or not, Jimi's rendition of The Star Spangled banner was not only a statement to music and the guitar but a statement to society, government and culture. Many poeple have a hard time understanding the mood in this country at the time. As far as the guitar playing goes it still stands up today. You also have to watch a clip like this and keep in mind that he was the first person to do all of this--Tricks and techniques that millions of players use today. The fact that most of your idols will claim him as an influence speaks volumes.

 

[taphappy]

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So if I make noise at a certain part of the song becuase I feel it artisticly expresses myself would I be considered as great of a guitarist as Jimi?

 

[walt]

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So if I make noise at a certain part of the song becuase I feel it artisticly expresses myself would I be considered as great of a guitarist as Jimi?

only if it "fits". if you have an idea of what an incoming missle would sound like and can transform that idea to come out of your guitar then maybe. Jimi's talent was being able to create an image from sound (check out Electric Ladyland's 1983 a merman I should turn to be for use of a wah and how he made it sound like water, or One Rainy Wish off of Axis, Bold as Love), he was also one of the first if not the first to make the guitar actually speak the words "Thank you" at the end of his concerts (Steve Vai did a simular in the beginning of Yankee Rose).

So if your "noise" sounds like what it's suppose to represent you will be on the right track, but to be as great as Jimi, you would have along road to travel.

 

[Ethdawg]

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Walt is dead on.

I think a lot of you who just can't fully grasp it are trying to 'follow the song', versus 'live the experience'. Jimi's music is heavily LSD influenced (as he is in that clip), so what would normally be discordant noise to some, is a powerful and emotional journey to his audience. You must disconnect from the perception of 'music' and open yourself up to the perception of 'sound'. He was a living & breathing synth machine - fueled by a poetic and powerful soul.

Jimi wasn't here to be the world's greatest song writer, the world's greatest performer, or the world's most technically skilled guitarist. He was here to be an artist, to express. His medium was a guitar, and he held no bars (pun!) when it came to music & performance at the time.

 

[JeffB]

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I watched this last night...and have seen it a few times before...

Confirms what I already felt....when Jimi tries to play Guitar..I'm floored...

When he tries to get "artistic" on the LSD trip as someone mentioned above using his guitar as a medium...I cannot stand to listen to him.

It's like Gilmour..there's an incredible talent there, but ya gotta dig through way too much "drug induced weirdness" to find it.

Sounds like heresy, but I'd honestly rather hear Trower, Uli, SRV or Yngwie do "Jimi stuff."..it's much more palatable

Sad that he's gone tho..amazing presence...larger than life...mild mannered and humble as well off-stage.

 

[sufferinrewind]

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I've seen and heard that quite a few times. It is indeed excellent, and even relevant.

I have to agree Walt and those guys. It is about expression. Every ounce of sweat in his being dripped with emotion. Every note he ever played, he played with so much emotion. What he may not have been able to describe in words, he used in painting a mental picture with sound. Everything he did on the guitar, whether he played a chord or scraped the fretboard to make noise, he was painting a picture that only those who knew the point he was making would really understand. For instance, if I'd told you that my best friend had passed away, and you didn't even know him/her and your best friend was still alive, I don't think you'd understand what I felt unless you knew the person or you'd experienced it yourself. You just really have to understand. It wasn't about the guitar, it was about tapping into his audiences' emotions. If you can see beyond what he's "playing" and look into what he's expressing, you'll see that what he did was beautiful.

If I remember this correctly, he was the first person to go on that morning, and that was the first thing he played. If so, how do you top that?

 

[walt]

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I've seen and heard that quite a few times. It is indeed excellent, and even relevant.

I have to agree Walt and those guys. It is about expression. Every ounce of sweat in his being dripped with emotion. Every note he ever played, he played with so much emotion. What he may not have been able to describe in words, he used in painting a mental picture with sound. Everything he did on the guitar, whether he played a chord or scraped the fretboard to make noise, he was painting a picture that only those who knew the point he was making would really understand. For instance, if I'd told you that my best friend had passed away, and you didn't even know him/her and your best friend was still alive, I don't think you'd understand what I felt unless you knew the person or you'd experienced it yourself. You just really have to understand. It wasn't about the guitar, it was about tapping into his audiences' emotions. If you can see beyond what he's "playing" and look into what he's expressing, you'll see that what he did was beautiful.

If I remember this correctly, he was the first person to go on that morning, and that was the first thing he played. If so, how do you top that?

Maybe that's why Jimi's first band was called the Experience??

 

[Corbic]

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The key to enjoying this song is simple. DO NOT think of the sounds as solos! Thats never what it was intended to be. I'm sure if Jimi wanted to do a solo there, he would've made EVH's solos sound like a joke. You gotta think of it as what it is; noise made to represent actual things, in this case, the sound of war. Machine guns. Missiles. Screams. Death. Its all there in the song, if you close your eyes and listen with an open mind. Don't think of the tone (which I think is great tone anyway), think of the meaning.

 

[Bludave]

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cool!!! Who is he???

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