Anyone use BFD for drums?

DankStar

Her Little Mojo Minion
The guy I got my alesis control pad from found the CD for BFD lite that came with it and sent it to me.

I'm already in the midst of a tune where I've dialed in the drums where I want them, so I won't install it for use until the next tune or so down the road.

In the meantime, does anyone use BFD or the lite version with good results? Perhaps I should steer clear if it's super out-dated. It's going to have to beat out slate ex to win me over, I like the sounds in it a lot.
 
Re: Anyone use BFD for drums?

I've not used BFD but many say that the samples in it are on par with the Superior Drummer. There's quite a lot of talk about it in SS.org. I'll search for a few threads.
 
Re: Anyone use BFD for drums?

Is it BFD 1 Lite or BFD 2 Lite?

BFD 2 is much easier to use than BFD 1. I found BFD 1 to be a bit more like a sequencer/geek machine than geetarist-friendly, but BFD 2 has a more simple layout (to me, anyway).

The sound quality of the samples is very high. Read all about them at FXPansion.com - what mics they used, what drums they used, etc etc.

Lots of tweakability IMO for each kit piece's tone within the program itself. As well, BFD 2 can use BFD 1's data/audio files, so if you upgrade to 2, you can keep all the stuff from 1. I did like some of the patterns in 1 more than 2, but 2 does have a slightly larger variety.

The only things I really don't like about BFD:
1: the emphasis on "vintage, you-can't-afford-this" gear. I don't care if it was Keith Moon's kick or Ginger Baker's high tom or Lars' piccolo snare or Buddy Rich's sticks. Really, I don't. I'm not a drummer. Having realistic samples of someone else's gear is inconsequential to me as a guitarist. Drums made today are just as good if not better than they were 50 years ago. They're also less expensive and thus that savings can be passed down to me.

2: the preset patterns sound a bit cliche` and lifeless. I got a million songs out of the patterns in my old Alesis SR-16. Change the tempo and it's a new song entirely; a whole new groove. Change the tempo in BFD's patterns and it's the same song, only slower. I don't know who they got to record them, but frankly I think most of what he played was not his style. Granted this was intended more for the Edumacated Studio Professional than some shlep with more money than brains....

3: while I'm sure the blastbeat death metal patterns are correct for the genre, they still suck, and there's just waaaaay too many variations of them. But that's a personal preference (as much as scientific fact that blastbeats are akin to unleashing a room full of crackhead chimps after too much 5-hour energy on a defenseless drum kit can be considered personal preference).

On the other hand, I did not like the demo version of DKFH Superior because I could hear hardware rattle in fast double-kick sections. I recorded a 13-piece kit with a basic set of mics into a 2-track cassette deck through an off-the-shelf Peavey mixer in some guy's house and got zero hardware rattle, even on the fastest/loudest double-kick speed metal passages, and they can't manage that in a studio with a pro drummer and pro gear? I didn't even get the guy's hyper-active screeching kids on tape, and was not using a noise gate.

That's what led me to BFD in the first place. Their sample demos were quiet and clear.
 
Re: Anyone use BFD for drums?

Not sure, as it only comes with regular "rock and jazz" type kit pieces (kicks, toms, snares, cymbals). There's a simple bongo and cowbell, "ice" blocks, and claps, which I just don't use. They do have expansion packs for various other "world" type instruments which I haven't really looked into. There's no gong, but I've been able to mimic one by simply detuning it in post-production. I think it's got finger snaps as well, can't recall.

From what little I have done with the cowbell, it sounds as good as any other cowbell; a nice dull metallic clunk that really any digital unit like the SR16 can do. I don't have high expectations for a cowbell in a musical context anyway.

If you've got a MIDI drum pattern (drums only), post it and I'll import it into BFD 2 and dump it out so you can directly compare the sounds to what you're using now. Lemme know what drum pieces you used in the track, along with tuning and whatnot so I can get as close to what you're using. BFD does have brand-name gear - Zildjian, DW, Pearl, etc - but I'm not familiar enough with other packages to know if they do the same thing or just use one brand.
 
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Re: Anyone use BFD for drums?

Cool ,if the samples are good, I may be able to use it.

(it's like version 1.5-point something)
 
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