Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
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Kosh Naranek
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Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
I've found the Blues Trembucker to be a little big-bottomed on one guitar I tried it in. That was a 24 3/4" scale set neck shredder with a mahogany body. That guitar already has a pretty full bass. In fact, the Blues Trembucker's low mid/bass hump is right on the note B, at the 7th fret of your low E string or the 2nd fret of the A string.
I now have two Blues Trembuckers, both in Ash or alder body 25 1/2" scale shredders with Floyds, and they sound tight all the way up the neck. I'm amazed at how a pickup can sound this crunchy through my overdrive channel, and so sparkly and sweet through my clean channel!
In the right guitar, the Blues Trembucker rulez!
A few reasons why it might not be more popular:
The look
The artist whose signature model this is has not put out an album, at least one that many have heard, in a long time
The name? Younger rockers who haven't heard Saraceno may think the pickup is a smooth, wooly sounding blues pickup.
Fads. The trend among players of heavy music today is to use high output pickups despite the fact that amps today have enough gain to make even a vintage pickup sound massively distorted. Medium output pickups with premium tone like the Blues get passed over.
I've found the Blues Trembucker to be a little big-bottomed on one guitar I tried it in. That was a 24 3/4" scale set neck shredder with a mahogany body. That guitar already has a pretty full bass. In fact, the Blues Trembucker's low mid/bass hump is right on the note B, at the 7th fret of your low E string or the 2nd fret of the A string.
I now have two Blues Trembuckers, both in Ash or alder body 25 1/2" scale shredders with Floyds, and they sound tight all the way up the neck. I'm amazed at how a pickup can sound this crunchy through my overdrive channel, and so sparkly and sweet through my clean channel!
In the right guitar, the Blues Trembucker rulez!
A few reasons why it might not be more popular:
The look
The artist whose signature model this is has not put out an album, at least one that many have heard, in a long time
The name? Younger rockers who haven't heard Saraceno may think the pickup is a smooth, wooly sounding blues pickup.
Fads. The trend among players of heavy music today is to use high output pickups despite the fact that amps today have enough gain to make even a vintage pickup sound massively distorted. Medium output pickups with premium tone like the Blues get passed over.
Cob85
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Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
Nice analysis Kosh...actually my favourite shop never sold a Blues Saraceno.
Maybe a stupid question:the parallel axis pickup is different from standard-pole pickups,but this is due to a technology improvement/standardisation or something other?
Nice analysis Kosh...actually my favourite shop never sold a Blues Saraceno.
Maybe a stupid question:the parallel axis pickup is different from standard-pole pickups,but this is due to a technology improvement/standardisation or something other?
Kosh Naranek
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Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
1.) be spaced correctly for a guitar with a trem bridge.
2.) increase sustain. Because they are on either side of the string, they will pull on the string as it reaches the outside of its travel, rather than being directly under the string, which in theory would tend to pull the string to its at rest position, descreasing sustain. How significant of a difference it makes, I don't really know. I tend to think that factors like the resonant properties of the guitar's body and the bridge hardware used have a greater impact on sustain than the magnetic pull of the pickup.
I concur with Jeremy. This is also the reason that guitarists still favor single coils with a vintage stagger, even though they cause the volume of each string to be audibly different if the pickup is adjusted close to the string. More vintage vibe, less functionality.
The pole pieces. They look different because they are designed to
1.) be spaced correctly for a guitar with a trem bridge.
2.) increase sustain. Because they are on either side of the string, they will pull on the string as it reaches the outside of its travel, rather than being directly under the string, which in theory would tend to pull the string to its at rest position, descreasing sustain. How significant of a difference it makes, I don't really know. I tend to think that factors like the resonant properties of the guitar's body and the bridge hardware used have a greater impact on sustain than the magnetic pull of the pickup.
I concur with Jeremy. This is also the reason that guitarists still favor single coils with a vintage stagger, even though they cause the volume of each string to be audibly different if the pickup is adjusted close to the string. More vintage vibe, less functionality.
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TheArchitect
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Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
In spite of the other speculation I would say its price and familiarity. Everyone knows what a JB and 59 are and have been used on a lot of records. The PA3 is unknown and more expensive. Most aren't willing to gamble on the unknown.
I use mine in a hard tail Warmoth Mahogany VW body with a Maple/Rosewood neck. It has a voice like no other both clean and dirty
In spite of the other speculation I would say its price and familiarity. Everyone knows what a JB and 59 are and have been used on a lot of records. The PA3 is unknown and more expensive. Most aren't willing to gamble on the unknown.
I use mine in a hard tail Warmoth Mahogany VW body with a Maple/Rosewood neck. It has a voice like no other both clean and dirty
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theodie
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Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
You could say that again.
I played a PATB-3 for the first 30 seconds and I got past the looks real fast! It sounded so good, it quickly made me embrace the looks and love them too!
You could say that again.
I played a PATB-3 for the first 30 seconds and I got past the looks real fast! It sounded so good, it quickly made me embrace the looks and love them too!
Sanford
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Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
I suppose any SD pickup can be made in the parallel axis vein with the pole pieces, yes?
How do the existing PA pickups compare to each other? 1 vs 2 vs 3? Or, how does the Blues model compare with the Brobucker (tone descriptions from various posters make them sound similar )?
I suppose any SD pickup can be made in the parallel axis vein with the pole pieces, yes?
How do the existing PA pickups compare to each other? 1 vs 2 vs 3? Or, how does the Blues model compare with the Brobucker (tone descriptions from various posters make them sound similar )?
Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
IMHO the PA sounds like it was designed to makes a trem equipped Strat style bolt on neck guitar sound like a vintage Les Paul.
I have one in a Samick Saraceno TV-20. It does sound a lot like a Les Paul, not just a strat with a humbucker.
I really like it. It is not so hot that it doesn't get a great clean tone. Sounds great with fuzz.... I would buy another in a minute.
IMHO the PA sounds like it was designed to makes a trem equipped Strat style bolt on neck guitar sound like a vintage Les Paul.
I have one in a Samick Saraceno TV-20. It does sound a lot like a Les Paul, not just a strat with a humbucker.
I really like it. It is not so hot that it doesn't get a great clean tone. Sounds great with fuzz.... I would buy another in a minute.
Re: Anyone used the Blues Saraceno?
hi got some samples, hope it helps
blues trembucker (inner coil) mixed with SSL1 in the middle, known as the "4th position" to some
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLbG-vaxyw&feature=channel_page
sample of the blues trembucker itself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8aLlVtD2Uw&feature=channel_page
hi got some samples, hope it helps
blues trembucker (inner coil) mixed with SSL1 in the middle, known as the "4th position" to some
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLbG-vaxyw&feature=channel_page
sample of the blues trembucker itself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8aLlVtD2Uw&feature=channel_page
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