Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
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Gearjoneser
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Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
And what sucks the most is that FIRST ding! It's like breaking the cherry.
I'll never forget the time I took a brand new PRS 10 Top on a small stage. I leaned it for one second against the carpeted wall, and didn't notice a big industrial staple poking out of the carpet, and it put a nice scratch on the edge of the headstock, near the point.
I felt so sick, I didn't even feel like playing anymore.
That day, it became designated as a player. The cherry had been broken!
And what sucks the most is that FIRST ding! It's like breaking the cherry.
I'll never forget the time I took a brand new PRS 10 Top on a small stage. I leaned it for one second against the carpeted wall, and didn't notice a big industrial staple poking out of the carpet, and it put a nice scratch on the edge of the headstock, near the point.
I felt so sick, I didn't even feel like playing anymore.
That day, it became designated as a player. The cherry had been broken!
3'scompany
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Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
Yup. Pretty much.
Though there is a whole lot of misinformation and stereotyping going on here which I find much humor in
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Uhh, I got way more flak for playing a PRS than I got props for it. Sorry, but PRS guitars don't win you points in the music scene. I'm not embarrassed to be seen with anything, hence why I didn't ditch my PRS guitars for a Gibbo or a Fender just to be cool. I instead decided to stay on the PRS short bus.
My high dollar PRS weren't just for looks. I toured with three of them. And no, I'm not rich. I didn't treat them like crap but they weren't babied either. All guitars are tools, no matter what they look like. My **** was expensive, but they got fearlessly rocked and held up better than my other guitar players strat, which if you listen to people on this board are apparently bulletproof.
Only owners make a guitar a center piece or "furniture guitar", the guitar in and of itself doesn't do so.
Hmmm. Because I actually was a young, working, professional guitarist just a couple years ago who didn't have a lot of disposable income but I still toured with 3 PRS guitars. Why? Because nothing else would give me the tone, feel, or playability that a PRS did. It all comes down to personal preference. And I worked and saved to buy them. They aren't as out of reach as many make them out to be. If half the guitarists I knew stopped buying pot, cigs and liquor they could probably buy a PRS every year.
Point being, not everyone who buys a PRS blows their entire wad on that guitar. I had three PRS and two good half stacks that I toured with. It wasn't a zero sum game for me and for many others it isn't either. Its not like everyone is only allotted $2k for a rig and if they buy a PRS they're gonna have to settle for a DOD grind amp because they spent all their money on a nice guitar.
Really, it all boils down to preference. I like PRS, as many others do, but I understand why some may not. I, unlike many, can't stand singlecoils, hate 99.9% of Fenders, detest about 80% of Gibsons, the list goes on... however, I don't really feel the need to talk a bunch of **** on strats because they don't fit my tastes. I find that a simple, "they're not really my style" seems to suffice in most contexts.
Yes PRS are expensive, but I don't think that any other comparable U.S. made guitar (similar construction, woods, finishes, appointments, etc) is cheap. Like it or not, PRS are pretty comparably priced (especially when you leave off birds, ten tops or artist packages). It all boils down to what you like, how much money you have and what you feel is worth it - but that is the same with any guitar or piece of gear. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yup. Pretty much.
Though there is a whole lot of misinformation and stereotyping going on here which I find much humor in
:Uhh, I got way more flak for playing a PRS than I got props for it. Sorry, but PRS guitars don't win you points in the music scene. I'm not embarrassed to be seen with anything, hence why I didn't ditch my PRS guitars for a Gibbo or a Fender just to be cool. I instead decided to stay on the PRS short bus.
My high dollar PRS weren't just for looks. I toured with three of them. And no, I'm not rich. I didn't treat them like crap but they weren't babied either. All guitars are tools, no matter what they look like. My **** was expensive, but they got fearlessly rocked and held up better than my other guitar players strat, which if you listen to people on this board are apparently bulletproof.
Only owners make a guitar a center piece or "furniture guitar", the guitar in and of itself doesn't do so.
Hmmm. Because I actually was a young, working, professional guitarist just a couple years ago who didn't have a lot of disposable income but I still toured with 3 PRS guitars. Why? Because nothing else would give me the tone, feel, or playability that a PRS did. It all comes down to personal preference. And I worked and saved to buy them. They aren't as out of reach as many make them out to be. If half the guitarists I knew stopped buying pot, cigs and liquor they could probably buy a PRS every year.
Point being, not everyone who buys a PRS blows their entire wad on that guitar. I had three PRS and two good half stacks that I toured with. It wasn't a zero sum game for me and for many others it isn't either. Its not like everyone is only allotted $2k for a rig and if they buy a PRS they're gonna have to settle for a DOD grind amp because they spent all their money on a nice guitar.
Really, it all boils down to preference. I like PRS, as many others do, but I understand why some may not. I, unlike many, can't stand singlecoils, hate 99.9% of Fenders, detest about 80% of Gibsons, the list goes on... however, I don't really feel the need to talk a bunch of **** on strats because they don't fit my tastes. I find that a simple, "they're not really my style" seems to suffice in most contexts.
Yes PRS are expensive, but I don't think that any other comparable U.S. made guitar (similar construction, woods, finishes, appointments, etc) is cheap. Like it or not, PRS are pretty comparably priced (especially when you leave off birds, ten tops or artist packages). It all boils down to what you like, how much money you have and what you feel is worth it - but that is the same with any guitar or piece of gear. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Innocent_Bystander
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Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
I don't mind spending money to get what I want and I feel fortunate to be in that position. I would never look down on someone for having less expensive gear or in general, something that I'm not personally in to, whether inexpensive or not.
Price is relative anyway, $3000 might be a lot to one person while $300 is a lot to another. Today I believe that there are good guitars in really just about any price range.
To ask if anything is worth the money, well let me ask, what's your money worth to you?
I don't mind spending money to get what I want and I feel fortunate to be in that position. I would never look down on someone for having less expensive gear or in general, something that I'm not personally in to, whether inexpensive or not.
Price is relative anyway, $3000 might be a lot to one person while $300 is a lot to another. Today I believe that there are good guitars in really just about any price range.
To ask if anything is worth the money, well let me ask, what's your money worth to you?
Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
3'scompany: I like your post and dig your logic, that's cool that you went on a big tour with your sweet stuff. There's just one problem...
if most guitarists stopped buying pot, cigarettes, and alcohol, rock-n-roll would get EVEN WORSE!
3'scompany: I like your post and dig your logic, that's cool that you went on a big tour with your sweet stuff. There's just one problem...
if most guitarists stopped buying pot, cigarettes, and alcohol, rock-n-roll would get EVEN WORSE!
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
Maybe. Or maybe it'd get a lot better. They might just listen to the noise they're cranking out and be embarrased at how commercial & uninspired it is.
Maybe. Or maybe it'd get a lot better. They might just listen to the noise they're cranking out and be embarrased at how commercial & uninspired it is.
Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
blueman335: just because every stoner rock band sounds EXACTLY like Black Sabbath doesn't make it uninspired!
blueman335: just because every stoner rock band sounds EXACTLY like Black Sabbath doesn't make it uninspired!
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
3'scompany
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Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
A big ole +1
Hahaha. That's pretty funny to me. Especially seeing as how I quit my last band because their future fell apart in front of them, largely due to their addictions to pot and alcohol.
But you're right. That new music that was on my sober shoulders to write and that the crowds loved surely did pale in comparison to the music they weren't making because they were too stoned and/or drunk. :laugh2:
A big ole +1
Hahaha. That's pretty funny to me. Especially seeing as how I quit my last band because their future fell apart in front of them, largely due to their addictions to pot and alcohol.
But you're right. That new music that was on my sober shoulders to write and that the crowds loved surely did pale in comparison to the music they weren't making because they were too stoned and/or drunk. :laugh2:
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
Howdy,
For me, one of the big questions is: "Did my guitar heroes or influences use a PRS?" The answer is "no". Therefore, I tend to seldom ever play one when I visit the guitar shop.
They certainly have a good reputation-like Taylor acoustics.
Give me Rickenbacker, Fender, Gibson and Martin. Call me a "Dinosaur".
Eggman
Howdy,
For me, one of the big questions is: "Did my guitar heroes or influences use a PRS?" The answer is "no". Therefore, I tend to seldom ever play one when I visit the guitar shop.
They certainly have a good reputation-like Taylor acoustics.
Give me Rickenbacker, Fender, Gibson and Martin. Call me a "Dinosaur".
Eggman
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
My hero's all played Gibsons & Fenders too, but their hero's often played different models or even different brands. Albert King played a Flying V, BB King plays a 355; none of their mentors did. Clapton became one of the world's best blues-rock guitarists in the mid 1960's on an SG thru a Marshall, models that didn't exist when his heroes were recording; many of them played delta blues on old acoustic guitars. How different music would be today if Clapton never played electrics. Clapton's role can't be over-estimated; he was a major influence for Page, Green, Hendrix, etc, who in turn influenced thousands of others.
Few of my heroes used after-market PU's, magnets, and alternative wirings like many of us do. We can adapt a little with the times while still respecting our heroes. I think the most important thing is keeping their styles alive, more than using their tools. Thank God in 1965 Clapton was a revolutionary that championed loud distorted amps and different models of guitars, like the discontinued '59 Les Paul Std that few players used in any genre at that time. He blew the doors off tradition.
For me, one of the big questions is: "Did my guitar heroes or influences use a PRS?" The answer is "no". Therefore, I tend to seldom ever play one when I visit the guitar shop. Give me Rickenbacker, Fender, Gibson and Martin. Call me a "Dinosaur".
My hero's all played Gibsons & Fenders too, but their hero's often played different models or even different brands. Albert King played a Flying V, BB King plays a 355; none of their mentors did. Clapton became one of the world's best blues-rock guitarists in the mid 1960's on an SG thru a Marshall, models that didn't exist when his heroes were recording; many of them played delta blues on old acoustic guitars. How different music would be today if Clapton never played electrics. Clapton's role can't be over-estimated; he was a major influence for Page, Green, Hendrix, etc, who in turn influenced thousands of others.
Few of my heroes used after-market PU's, magnets, and alternative wirings like many of us do. We can adapt a little with the times while still respecting our heroes. I think the most important thing is keeping their styles alive, more than using their tools. Thank God in 1965 Clapton was a revolutionary that championed loud distorted amps and different models of guitars, like the discontinued '59 Les Paul Std that few players used in any genre at that time. He blew the doors off tradition.
Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
I think it's pretty clear at this point that music and rock-n-roll are two COMPLETELY different things.
I think it's pretty clear at this point that music and rock-n-roll are two COMPLETELY different things.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
The heros play Gibson and Fender not because those are better, statistically, per guitar.
But there are so many Gibsons and Fenders floating around guitar shops and elsewhere that if they play hundreds of guitars to find food ones (which most do), then statistically the chance to end up with a big name is as much higher as the number of guitars is.
Plus the threshold to pick up a new kind of guitar is very high. Established players tend to make small incremental changes, not poke around in radically different designs.
As a less established player you should feel blessed that you can choose more easily.
The heros play Gibson and Fender not because those are better, statistically, per guitar.
But there are so many Gibsons and Fenders floating around guitar shops and elsewhere that if they play hundreds of guitars to find food ones (which most do), then statistically the chance to end up with a big name is as much higher as the number of guitars is.
Plus the threshold to pick up a new kind of guitar is very high. Established players tend to make small incremental changes, not poke around in radically different designs.
As a less established player you should feel blessed that you can choose more easily.
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
You generally get what you pay for in the guitar world. I've had a used 1000 buck PRS p90 and a new high end brazillian neck 3000 buck one. Definitely a difference. Looks on the high end one were unbelievable. You could get lost in all that quilted flame. The rosewood neck was a work of art. I put in different pups and tried to change the tone to more match the p90 one I had let loose of. Mistake. This guitar didn't need new pups. Had I wanted p90, I should have bought a p90. When i popped the original humbuckers back in, the guitar was better and I had severe 2nd thoughts about selling it. But I still sold it. The 2nd owner kept it about a year and sold it as well. I never asked why, but something didn't seem to call out to him on it either I guess. I went back to my other guitars (Gibson, Fender and Gretsch) and have lost the desire to own a PRS again.
You generally get what you pay for in the guitar world. I've had a used 1000 buck PRS p90 and a new high end brazillian neck 3000 buck one. Definitely a difference. Looks on the high end one were unbelievable. You could get lost in all that quilted flame. The rosewood neck was a work of art. I put in different pups and tried to change the tone to more match the p90 one I had let loose of. Mistake. This guitar didn't need new pups. Had I wanted p90, I should have bought a p90. When i popped the original humbuckers back in, the guitar was better and I had severe 2nd thoughts about selling it. But I still sold it. The 2nd owner kept it about a year and sold it as well. I never asked why, but something didn't seem to call out to him on it either I guess. I went back to my other guitars (Gibson, Fender and Gretsch) and have lost the desire to own a PRS again.
Binnerscot
Well-known member
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
I bought a used Custom 24 20th at a very good price. Excellent guitar, great feel and tone (PRS certainly has a tone of their own). Yes, I think they are worth what you pay, new is a little pricey - but I can think of many guitars in those price ranges where PRS delivers a better guitar (Hamer being the exception to that)
That being said, I still like my Jacksons more than my PRS - I think I will be a superstrat guy all the way to my grave.
I bought a used Custom 24 20th at a very good price. Excellent guitar, great feel and tone (PRS certainly has a tone of their own). Yes, I think they are worth what you pay, new is a little pricey - but I can think of many guitars in those price ranges where PRS delivers a better guitar (Hamer being the exception to that)
That being said, I still like my Jacksons more than my PRS - I think I will be a superstrat guy all the way to my grave.
Yngwiestein
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Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
If something gives you the sound you want then it's not too expensive. If a Blues Jr. gave you the sound you wanted and it sold for $999 then it wouldn't be too expensive would it? No because for the person who really wants it $999 is a reasonable price. This thread is kind of senseless really. At least you get at least 2 pickups in a PRS. You can pay twice as much for a Charvel with only 1 pickup! LOL!
If something gives you the sound you want then it's not too expensive. If a Blues Jr. gave you the sound you wanted and it sold for $999 then it wouldn't be too expensive would it? No because for the person who really wants it $999 is a reasonable price. This thread is kind of senseless really. At least you get at least 2 pickups in a PRS. You can pay twice as much for a Charvel with only 1 pickup! LOL!
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Are High end prs guitars worth the money?
Except that not everyone has $999 lying around to spend on an amp, and whatever on a guitar. Lots of guys on this forum have modest paying jobs and families to support. Yes, the "sound you want" can be too expensive. Anyone looking at this from the perspective of a dealer, is used to talking people into buying guitars; gotta move your inventory. But they have to go home and explain to their wives why in these days of rapidly rising costs for gas & food and record home foreclosures, they feel the need to drop a grand or two for an amp and guitar, when they can barely pay the bills now. Life is about compromise and balancing priorities. Time for a reality check.
Except that not everyone has $999 lying around to spend on an amp, and whatever on a guitar. Lots of guys on this forum have modest paying jobs and families to support. Yes, the "sound you want" can be too expensive. Anyone looking at this from the perspective of a dealer, is used to talking people into buying guitars; gotta move your inventory. But they have to go home and explain to their wives why in these days of rapidly rising costs for gas & food and record home foreclosures, they feel the need to drop a grand or two for an amp and guitar, when they can barely pay the bills now. Life is about compromise and balancing priorities. Time for a reality check.
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