Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

I actually liked the brass nut/zero fret thing on the 2015. Played one the other day and tuning stability was a million times better, and its nice to have the option of having a nut you can adjust the height on yourself. If I could, Id have one with the brass zero fret, but with the normal fretboard width
 
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blueman335 said:
The changes incorporated into the 2016 line are an admission that 'We should have listened to you.'
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But they listened and that is HUGE for an multi-National company. It says they respect their customers. Might be time for a Honeyburst.
 
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Securb said:
But they listened and that is HUGE for an multi-National company. It says they respect their customers.
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That's true. They were not too proud to admit they made a mistake. They deserve credit for that, and hopefully have learned a lesson going forward.
 
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Securb said:
But they listened and that is HUGE for an multi-National company. It says they respect their customers. Might be time for a Honeyburst.
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This really is the first time in years they've done ANYTHING right.

Firebird X?

Les Paul Dusk Tiger? Lol
 
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BriGuy1968 said:
Just got this article in my email from Reverb.com:

Breaking: Gibson to Revert Prices and Specs on 2016 Models
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Confirmation: I got a little inside info too just now, the 2016 models are starting to hit the stores and I am very, very pleased with the pricepoints as well as some of the model offerings. I am not sure when the stores will be putting them up for sale but they are in stock now. I just got a new guitar but you never know...
 
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I occurs to me now that Gibson could have done all of this seemingly idiotic stuff simply because interest in their basic models was waning.

Stick with me here:
Gibson gets rid of the models everyone usually want, and replace them with disfigured versions that no one asked for and very few people want, leading to lots of disgruntled discussions and arguments in the guitar community about what we really want in a Les Paul etc. They also raise the prices of standard models by around a thousand dollars even though there is nothing that warrants that price increase. Everyone panics because it looks like the era of the Les Paul Standard as we know it is over, and prices on earlier used models skyrocket. This also clears the used market of an overstock of slightly used Gibsons. One year later, they reintroduce the same standard models that would have gotten a yawn before all this started, and we all run out and grab a few we don't really need right now before Gibson "does something else stupid". Meanwhile, they lower the prices on the 2015 models back down to what they should have been in the first place, and people run out to buy them because they are a "great bargain".

Am I just paranoid, or does that all make good business sense?
 
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I don't know if that's exactly how they planned it but the fact you can get a Gibby LP with P90's for $800-$900 brand new in 2016 tells me it might be time to buy a p90 LP!
 
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Mr. B said:
I occurs to me now that Gibson could have done all of this seemingly idiotic stuff simply because interest in their basic models was waning...does that all make good business sense?
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Well, that seems crazy but...remember 'New Coke'? In the 1990's Coca Cola changed their product to one that tasted a lot like Pepsi. Huge flop, customers up in arms. Then with great fanfare and to the relief of millions of people worldwide, they re-introduced their old formula Coke under the name 'Coke Classic', and have had the highest sales in their history since then. What initially looked like one of the worst moves a company could make became the best thing that ever happened to them. That's a business example that's out there and has been closely studied for many years. Not that Coke had planned on all that happening, but it was one of the great turnarounds in the business world. A kind of 'You don't know what you've got til it's gone' thing that drove up demand to record levels. Some other company is bound to want to do it and see if they can have similar results. If Gibson management did decide to try it, would they ever admit to it?
 
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Re: Are the new Gibson guitars here to stay?

^^ Risky... but possibly sheer genius. They might admit it in 30-40 years, but still doubtful if that were the case.

With so many "modern" and/or "technologically advanced" guitar models out there (or at least that perception), a classically styled company like Gibson may very well have decided to try such a bold move in order to maintain their hold on the market. Rather than coming out with new "me too" models, why not re-introduce the ones that set the bar in the first place?

If that were the case, it would be a fantastic marketing story!


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