Are there any great budget amps left?

The red knob Fender tube swap and biasing procedure was very involved and may involve having to swap components.

Had one 30 years ago and my understanding was they are not coveted today because they were a budget design with compromises in quality. Its a vintage Fender that you can actually afford, and I think Nickleback used them for clean sound on some big albums. Probably just an accident of what they could afford early on and what fit in their touring rigs.

That said, if I was looking for a budget vintage tube amp, I'd be looking a little later at some 90/00s Peaveys. In the $300 and less no reason to not use a Katana.

I have one of those, “The Twin” TRs. You just have to make sure the values match the schematic printed in the back of the amp (some sockets can only have 12AT7s, 12AU7s etc it to function properly).

I love it. Hasn’t failed me in over 15 years, the clean channel is a beautiful, pristine sound and I did own a ‘72 Silverface to compare it to. It has very flexible EQ controls. It doesn’t get a lot of breakup, short of opening it up switched to 25 watt mode, but some like myself love the warm yet super clean with a great “spank.”

Now…. The Overdrive channel is where people really got confused. It’s amazing when you know how to use it. The EQ (with pull-activated boosts) is set before the gain stage. Cutting the bass and boosting the mids and highs gives you a very customisable gain voicing which can absolutely be used for tight metal without any boosting required! There’s a lot on tap and it’s useable and musical through the entire range.

One of my first clips posted to the forum was a seriously heavy sound just with the bit in, open-back combo speakers and it kicked a$&. You can imagine how it sounds into an external 4x12. The presence control has a pull-out “notch” has an adjustable mid cut that starts out grainy, Marshallesque to smoother, honkier, early Mesa Mark. With all that set up and then with an EQ in the loop, it can get any heavy sound you can possibly imagine.

Other truly awesomely useful features include a power-amp-thru to slave it to another power amp with the FX loop in use, built in multimeter ports and pots for easy bias and balance, the ability to do standard channel switching, running both channels in parallel from one guitar (or bass for a real, all tube bi-amped sound!) to blend them, running both channels in parallel with two different sound sources/instruments.

One of the best features ever is the XLR out after the power tubes, before the OT to run the full amp sound, not just the preamp to a desk for reamping, running through IRs, a neutral SS power amp to preserve the entire sound with power amp colour or distortion and add more power. It makes it a total swiss-army-knife in the studio.

If I’m doing a demo or need to record silently, loadboxing, running the pre-amp from my amp of choice into The Twin’s power-amp in, getting the power tubes cooking (which adds so much to a solid state preamp slaved in) XLR out to an impulse response adds so much more than just slaving the preamp into the desk.

Every guitarist who had used it in my studio has been obsessed with it, I’ve gotten some really fat bass sounds out of it and though it’s one seriously weighty combo, I feel it was ahead of its time and still holds up today. Blending a very tight, focused metal rhythm sound from The Twin (similar to how you would set up a Mark series Mesa) blended with a huge sounding Dual Rectifier is godly.

I believe it’s a Rivera design.
 
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I have one of those, “The Twin” TRs. You just have to make sure the values match the schematic printed in the back of the amp (some sockets can only have 12AT7s, 12AU7s etc it to function properly).

Every guitarist who had used it in my studio has been obsessed with it, I’ve gotten some really fat bass sounds out of it and though it’s one seriously weighty combo, I feel it was ahead of its time and still holds up today. Blending a very tight, focused metal rhythm sound from The Twin (similar to how you would set up a Mark series Mesa) blended with a huge sounding Dual Rectifier is godly.

I believe it’s a Rivera design.

I couldn't agree more. It was my search for a red knob that prompted this thread. Mine is in our rehearsal studio. Every guitarist that hears it or plays through it is blown away. The cleans are pristine and as you said the overdrive channel is very Marshallesque. I was looking for another head they are hard to find especially at budget prices any more. They are still affordable but have doubled in price since I bought mine for ~$125.
 
I couldn't agree more. It was my search for a red knob that prompted this thread. Mine is in our rehearsal studio. Every guitarist that hears it or plays through it is blown away. The cleans are pristine and as you said the overdrive channel is very Marshallesque. I was looking for another head they are hard to find especially at budget prices any more. They are still affordable but have doubled in price since I bought mine for ~$125.

Don’t give up. They’re so worth it. It’s no wonder people who own them hold onto them for dear life (like the 4x12 that came with the Johnson Millennium even if people didn’t like that amp much) I’ve always wanted to build a head-cabinet for it and mount it to convert it to a (reversible) top-mounted head. Would basically make it a Mesa Mark with red knobs and more features, though I may give it knurled knobs. A head like that with a Fender badge called “The Twin” sounding the way it does would blow people’s minds. I used it live in my band’s early days.

We could just slide it in side by side with the Silverface. The second guitarist used the Silver as a great pedal platform (The Rocktron Zombie sounded amazing with it as it’s touted as working best with an all tube amp, had a Dual Rec kinda sound, he’d sometimes use a Krank Distortus Maximus which also sounded great with that amp on the edge of breakup!) while I would run straight into Red Knob gain channel, no boosts required, with an EQ in the loop set to my rhythm sound, ducking some of the “honk”, bit more treble and low-end with a slight volume cut, then for my solo boost, I just turned off the EQ for a gorgeous, smooth Santana flavour lead tone.

Did a great job, even for an open back combo and then we’d get the most beautiful cleans which normally isn’t easy to get live with more gain-centric amps. Very convenient to transport, plenty loud enough. Ideal for a young band just wanting to get out there and play before we graduated to halfstacks.
 
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IMO people are just listing high based off the whole inflation thing thinking now is the time to ditch-it while they can get more.
I'm sure they can to some extent but I've also noticed many of the listings still up after a month or two. Now is a good time to low-ball a bit.
 
IMO people are just listing high based off the whole inflation thing thinking now is the time to ditch-it while they can get more.
I'm sure they can to some extent but I've also noticed many of the listings still up after a month or two. Now is a good time to low-ball a bit.

I’m getting offers for my ADA-MP1 and ADA Microtube 200 set for more than I paid for both.
 
IMO people are just listing high based off the whole inflation thing thinking now is the time to ditch-it while they can get more.
I'm sure they can to some extent but I've also noticed many of the listings still up after a month or two. Now is a good time to low-ball a bit.

Inflation is what happens when prices go up.

If they believe inflation will be a thing, the smart move would be to hold off on listing and then sell it later when it's worth more.
 
Inflation is what happens when prices go up.

If they believe inflation will be a thing, the smart move would be to hold off on listing and then sell it later when it's worth more.

Well maybe, maybe not. Depends for how long one bets it will continue. Also many gear heads are not that patient.
Also many sell to fund other buys, and if they hold off too long then the item they want will also go up.
 
You must really like them!

The microtube poweramp is the best studio power amp I’ve ever heard. Has a built in tube presence circuit that uses real tubes. The MP-1 I love for the dual gain controls but I prefer an external EQ over the built in. I’m not even much of an 80’s sound guy, though the retroheads are offering a mint for the set, I might take them up on it.
 
The microtube poweramp is the best studio power amp I’ve ever heard. Has a built in tube presence circuit that uses real tubes. The MP-1 I love for the dual gain controls but I prefer an external EQ over the built in. I’m not even much of an 80’s sound guy, though the retroheads are offering a mint for the set, I might take them up on it.

So what EQ do you like with it best? I assume like a 32 band rack unit or similar.
 
Hard to beat a good para.
Dave Friedman was saying on his podcast that he was considering doing a new exact copy of the old Boss GE-10 in a smaller housing.

When I saw George Lynch at B.B. Kings in NYC that is what he was using.

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Yeah I would love if Friedman done a 1:1 copy downsized a bit. I've never used one and have always wondered what gives them the sauce over something like the MXR, other than probably more rugged construction and better parts, but maybe that's just it.
 
The old Yamaha G-series, (112, 212, 410), all fly under the radar, and are great amps. The downside is, almost all would need TLC, such as pots Deoxit'ed or replaced, and maybe caps replaced. So not necessarily plug-'n-play. But some are.
 
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