Ash Charvel help?

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This is my guitar. https://www.charvel.com/gear/shape/s...=neon-pink-ash


It came stock with a Dimarzio super distortion and I found the sound to be all over the place. It sounded too muffled, too dark, the highs didn’t cut through the right way and the sound, it was everywhere. It was not tight at all, it was not defined, it was literally like just “lots of sound”. Not sure if that description makes sense but it was just it was too much of everything and not enough of anything.


Then I tried the DiMarzio Fortitude bridge pickup. Maybe it works well for Gojira but for me, there just was not anywhere near enough output and I really did not like the pick up.

Currently I have a Dean Baker Act bridge pick up in this guitar. It’s my go-to bridge pickup and it’s great and alder and mahogany, but in ash it, sounds too thin, in all but the highest gain. There is too much high-end there’s not enough low-end and the mids are just super duper scooped with extra high-end fizz.

What I like about ash are the split coil sounds/ single coil kind of vibe I can get in this guitar. I think single coil pickups/ series parallel sounds are wonderful. But then when I go onto my hard rock humbucker tone I haven’t been able to find a place that I really like.

I’m looking for something that sounds tight and defined with a muscular sounding rhythm, but not so fat that it doesn’t cut right. I’m looking for highs that are rolled off a little bit so to be not quite as piercing. I’m looking for great lows, great articulation in the low mids. It also has a split for single coil tones really well. I solo and do lots of tapping riffs, so its got to be good for that too.

I’m not big on the JB in ash. The duncan distortion sounds better to my ears, but still isn’t exactly what I’m looking for either. So I’m here looking for suggestions? I mainly play hard rock and shred.
 
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Would a Custom Custom make sense? I have a 25.5" ash-bodied 6 string that's giving me the same problem as the OP - too bright, too thin, weird midrange. Lots of different pickups, a couple different tunings, same issues.
 
I love a Custom Custom...more mids than anything, and not the pickup you'd want if you want a really tight bass, but it is perfect for me.
 
If you're looking for "highs that are rolled off a little" I wouldn't recommend the Custom (with ceramic magnet). It has very piercing highs. It does have the other qualities that you are looking for however. I think what you want is a Custom with an A8 magnet (commonly referred to as the C8). Strong articulate lows, great mids, and strong highs that aren't piercing/"brittle" sounding (like the ceramic model) but very slightly rolled off but still strong...very pleasant sounding. It really cuts through without sounding obnoxious.

Like Mincer said, the Custom Custom (A2 mag) has very strong mids. It also has highs that are very soft/weak/very rolled off, and a bass that tends to be a bit mushy...not tight like the Custom, C5, or C8.
 
If you're looking for "highs that are rolled off a little" I wouldn't recommend the Custom (with ceramic magnet). It has very piercing highs. It does have the other qualities that you are looking for however. I think what you want is a Custom with an A8 magnet (commonly referred to as the C8). Strong articulate lows, great mids, and strong highs that aren't piercing/"brittle" sounding (like the ceramic model) but very slightly rolled off but still strong...very pleasant sounding. It really cuts through without sounding obnoxious.

Like Mincer said, the Custom Custom (A2 mag) has very strong mids. It also has highs that are very soft/weak/very rolled off, and a bass that tends to be a bit mushy...not tight like the Custom, C5, or C8.

The CC is one of my fav Duncan pickups. Not sure its the sound I'm searching fo for this guitar, but it does have great mids for sure.
I did the mag swap to an A8 in one and found it to be a bit too much. I had it in an old San Dimas tele and liked the regular CC more. It's cousin, the EVH Frankie is one of my favourite pickups.
I listened to that great Keith Merrow demo last night and for this application, I thought that the DD, Custom, Custom 5 and Alt 8 sounded the best for an ash guitar. Maybe I'll buy a custom and a DD and experiment
 
If the CC won't work in this application, what about something like the Black Winter?
 
This is my guitar. https://www.charvel.com/gear/shape/s...=neon-pink-ash


It came stock with a Dimarzio super distortion and I found the sound to be all over the place. It sounded too muffled, too dark, the highs didn’t cut through the right way and the sound, it was everywhere. It was not tight at all, it was not defined, it was literally like just “lots of sound”. Not sure if that description makes sense but it was just it was too much of everything and not enough of anything.


Then I tried the DiMarzio Fortitude bridge pickup. Maybe it works well for Gojira but for me, there just was not anywhere near enough output and I really did not like the pick up.

Currently I have a Dean Baker Act bridge pick up in this guitar. It’s my go-to bridge pickup and it’s great and alder and mahogany, but in ash it, sounds too thin, in all but the highest gain. There is too much high-end there’s not enough low-end and the mids are just super duper scooped with extra high-end fizz.

What I like about ash are the split coil sounds/ single coil kind of vibe I can get in this guitar. I think single coil pickups/ series parallel sounds are wonderful. But then when I go onto my hard rock humbucker tone I haven’t been able to find a place that I really like.

I’m looking for something that sounds tight and defined with a muscular sounding rhythm, but not so fat that it doesn’t cut right. I’m looking for highs that are rolled off a little bit so to be not quite as piercing. I’m looking for great lows, great articulation in the low mids. It also has a split for single coil tones really well. I solo and do lots of tapping riffs, so its got to be good for that too.

I’m not big on the JB in ash. The duncan distortion sounds better to my ears, but still isn’t exactly what I’m looking for either. So I’m here looking for suggestions? I mainly play hard rock and shred.


Yea im having pretty much the same EXACT problem with my San Dimas Pro Mod Ash pink guitar. The Super Distortion is super muffled, lots of low end and mids but treble is way WAY too rolled off. I think it could be the crappy wiring in these guitars, but i could be wrong. I have the same problem with the "old Yella" of the same series, which has a Full Shred stock from the factory and it sounds pretty damn dull as well.

Problem is with these pink ones, they are body mounted, and unless you route the wood, would have to use Dimarzio pickups due to the leg shape (sort of triangular). I am actually going to give up on mine as well as the "old Yella". I am going for a DK24K and/or a DK24 HSS in the blue color. I am pretty tired of the blocky neck joints as well on Pro-Mods. I already have a super sweet 2016 San Dimas Pro-Mod with 59 neck and PATB1 bridge with some Floyd upgrades. Perfect gigging guitar.
 
Yea im having pretty much the same EXACT problem with my San Dimas Pro Mod Ash pink guitar. The Super Distortion is super muffled, lots of low end and mids but treble is way WAY too rolled off. I think it could be the crappy wiring in these guitars, but i could be wrong. I have the same problem with the "old Yella" of the same series, which has a Full Shred stock from the factory and it sounds pretty damn dull as well.

Problem is with these pink ones, they are body mounted, and unless you route the wood, would have to use Dimarzio pickups due to the leg shape (sort of triangular). I am actually going to give up on mine as well as the "old Yella". I am going for a DK24K and/or a DK24 HSS in the blue color. I am pretty tired of the blocky neck joints as well on Pro-Mods. I already have a super sweet 2016 San Dimas Pro-Mod with 59 neck and PATB1 bridge with some Floyd upgrades. Perfect gigging guitar.

You can use a dremel to shave off the corners on a pickup to get it into a tight pickup route. the Baker Act was easy to fit.
 
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