Automatic Tuners?

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Gimme a ****in' break. Is tuning your guitar really that ****in' hard, folks?

Embrace the future man. Robots, baby. Little ones to tune your guitar, keep your heart beating and spray water on your anus. Its like a crazy fever dream of awesome.

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Gimme a ****in' break. Is tuning your guitar really that ****in' hard, folks?

Not at all. It happened some time ago that I changed the broken string during the 2nd verse while I kept singing and the axe was ready by the solo. It is just a great thing not worry to about going offtune while you are onstage.
 
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After hearing how the older Gibson Robot Tuning system worked, I can say people are at least trying. The older Robot Tuning system had the main piece in the control cavity, with wires going through the body, through the neck, and then to the headstock. That already sounds like a headache to me, and while I wouldn't buy anything with a MinETune, Tronical Tuners, etc., at least they are trying to do something new.

But I still think it is ridiculous that people need robots to tune their guitars for them. If I were to have multiple tunings in one show, I'd try bringing different guitars, changing to keys of alternate-tuning songs to keep everything in one tuning, or simply tune the guitar to an alternate tuning during a break/bass/drum solo/etc. before I'd try a robot tuning mechanism. Seems like a needless expense that can present problems when trying to fix something that really isn't much of a problem to begin with.

An instrument though that WOULD benefit greatly from automatic tuners would be the oud. There is a joke that a oud player will spend more time tuning their instrument than they will playing it. 12-string guitars may also benefit slightly from it, just because it takes twice the time to tune to that of a regular 6-stringed guitar. There'd probably be a market for automatic piano and percussions tuning as well.
 
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Re: Automatic Tuners?

I guess most of you drive manual trans mission vehicles.
As a matter of fact, I do.

While the stick shift analogy is fair, I have a few other thoughts:
  • Adding significant weight to the headstock is often counterproductive from both a balance (neck heavy) and tone standpoint.
  • If you're tuning enough to think this is a great idea, the $300 might be better spent on a guitar that stays in tune. I once took the Floyd off my MusicMan to replace the bushing for the arm and when I put it back together it was still in tune.
  • $300 is a lot of money to a lot of guitarists. If you have $300 to spend on a gizmo like this, you probably also have multiple guitars. Spending $50 on a Tremol-No for each of my trem guitars was painful enough.

I've been wrong before. I have two failed startups to my credit...but then again, maybe I can now recognize failure when I see it. ;)
 
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But I still think it is ridiculous that people need robots to tune their guitars for them. If I were to have multiple tunings in one show, I'd try bringing different guitars, changing to keys of alternate-tuning songs to keep everything in one tuning, or simply tune the guitar to an alternate tuning during a break/bass/drum solo/etc. before I'd try a robot tuning mechanism. Seems like a needless expense that can present problems when trying to fix something that really isn't much of a problem to begin with.

Have you ever played a gig before?

As a gigging musician, I totally see the benefit to these. This way, I could bring one guitar to a gig to serve for three or four different tunings. Lugging three to four guitars and dealing with a ****load of guitar changes is not fun at all.
 
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Have you ever played a gig before?

As a gigging musician, I totally see the benefit to these. This way, I could bring one guitar to a gig to serve for three or four different tunings. Lugging three to four guitars and dealing with a ****load of guitar changes is not fun at all.

Yes.

And I'd honestly rather do a key change than change tunings live. I see there being a benefit for others if they insist on changing tunings live though. But what if the bassist/other guitar players do not have this tuning system? At that point it has mostly allowed you to stand around waiting for others to change tunings.

I also wouldn't recommend constantly changing tuning because of the stress it puts on the strings, at if it is a drastic change of tuning the guitar will not be set up for it. Forget the idea if you have a floating tremolo.
 
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It allows for your choice of range of tunings too. Very fine may take a few seconds more. Good sounding tuning can be done in about ten seconds and there is no need for a tuner or for you to be able to hear your guitar on stage. I enjoy tuning guitars while at home or in the office or really anywhere except on stage or even while jamming. I'll admit I don't put these on my best guitar, but do not see any difference in weight when playing. It might be there but I have not noticed at all. Not for everyone I can see, but really helps those who want to stay in near perfect tune from song to song while jamming or gigging.
 
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