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Sly_D

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After messing around and thinking that the CC was my #1 pup, I finally made a major re-swap of my three magnets (A2, A5 and ceramic)... and the original SH-5 with a ceramic magnet is finally my favorite pup.

It's more articulate, more vintage and powerful that the other two Alnico options. I suspect people don't like the SH-5 because they have an issue with the word "ceramic" (I've been one of them). This pick-up is amazing!

I know "ceramic" and "vintage" sound like an oxymoron, yet if I use my ears, the SH-5 is as close as a fat PAF as you can get.

My two cents worth of course :D
 
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Sly_D said:
After messing around and thinking that the CC was my #1 pup, I finally made a major re-swap of my three magnets (A2, A5 and ceramic)... and the original SH-5 with a ceramic magnet is finally my favorite pup.

It's more articulate, more vintage and powerful that the other two Alnico options. I suspect people don't like the SH-5 because they have an issue with the word "ceramic" (I've been one of them). This pick-up is amazing!

I know "ceramic" and "vintage" sound like an oxymoron, yet if I use my ears, the SH-5 is as close as a fat PAF as you can get.

My two cents worth of course :D
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Your not alone there Sly.........
 
I was pleasantly surprised after putting a ceramic into my '59.
I used to think ceramics weren't for me too. Couldn't be more wrong.
I'll be walking behind you as my gear is lesser;)
 
I have a C-5 now in one of my dean Evos but will soon be getting a Custom because I still need that thick warmth from the mids like the JB......hopefully the Custom will be it!
 
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Sly_D said:
After messing around and thinking that the CC was my #1 pup, I finally made a major re-swap of my three magnets (A2, A5 and ceramic)... and the original SH-5 with a ceramic magnet is finally my favorite pup.

It's more articulate, more vintage and powerful that the other two Alnico options. I suspect people don't like the SH-5 because they have an issue with the word "ceramic" (I've been one of them). This pick-up is amazing!

I know "ceramic" and "vintage" sound like an oxymoron, yet if I use my ears, the SH-5 is as close as a fat PAF as you can get.

My two cents worth of course :D
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Hey sly good to hear from another that hears that a ceramic pup can be P.A.F toned:bigthumb:
i have tried the CC,C5 and custom many times,and also keep comin back to the ceramic CUSTOM TB-5;)
what i do to make it the most P.A.Fish,is to set it at 5/32" low E side and 4/32" high E side. this is measuring from the top of the slug pole to the bottom and the string.
this for me makes it very classic paf sounding,but in a much more MUCHO way:D
I can really hear where seymour got the "PAF on steriods" thing from!:cool:
 
Btw,i just have to say it,i found the C5 to have the least P.A.F tone i ever heard:barf:
just because it has the pulled back mids and a higher treble and bass does not a make a pup sound P.A.F at all,look at a pup like the steves special by dimarzio, it has a scooped midrange and a bigger bass and treble and aint nobody gonna tell me that one sounds P.A.F either:argue: :D
I still dont agree with the it is a 59b with a bigger bass and output:rolleyes:
the 59b is much brighter in the treb, has the right dip in the mids,and has a much more P.A.F quality to it.
 
papersoul said:
I have a C-5 now in one of my dean Evos but will soon be getting a Custom because I still need that thick warmth from the mids like the JB......hopefully the Custom will be it!
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bro if it aint i will send you my left arm:D
 
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WARRENLEELYNCH said:
Hey sly good to hear from another that hears that a ceramic pup can be P.A.F toned:bigthumb:
i have tried the CC,C5 and custom many times,and also keep comin back to the ceramic CUSTOM TB-5;)
what i do to make it the most P.A.Fish,is to set it at 5/32" low E side and 4/32" high E side. this is measuring from the top of the slug pole to the bottom and the string.
this for me makes it very classic paf sounding,but in a much more MUCHO way:D
I can really hear where seymour got the "PAF on steriods" thing from!:cool:
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5/32" and 4/32" huh......I'll keep that in mind when I finally get the Custom installed...LOL! What did you find when raising the pickup? Did you radius the poles at all?

I need to get a good measuring rule as mine only shows 16's....not 32"s. :mad: I couldn't find any in local stores....maybe online.
 
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papersoul said:
5/32" and 4/32" huh......I'll keep that in mind when I finally get the Custom installed...LOL! What did you find when raising the pickup? Did you radius the poles at all?

I need to get a good measuring rule as mine only shows 16's....not 32"s. :mad: I couldn't find any in local stores....maybe online.
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when i set the custom closer she got too UN- P.A.F and became more :firedevil which is good for some if they seek a more thrashy tone? i play many styles so it was too overkill close and
i used those measurments because
that is where ED vanhalen set his custom when he used one, as well as his pup setting on the music man axe.
I actually just gave it a passing thought at first but said what the hey? why not try it?
so i did and was very happy with the tone of the custom at that distance:)
 
Funny you mentione Ed......ever notice how far the p'up are form the strings on the Wolfgang? I used to own one.
 
I love the Custom. I don't really think it has more bass than a 59, but it does have a lot more mids. Thing is, it's mids that sound like an extension of the typical mid profile of a PAF. Same proportion of low, mid, and high mids. Just more, more output, more punch. Very cool pup. :)
 
Brighter than a CC, not as bright as a C5.

Check out the SD sound clips here:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/SDToneWizard/hummer.htm
 
papersoul said:
Hmmm. sothe CC is the darkest, then Custom, then C-5.
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no it is CC,C5 then custom
the custom has a resonant peak of 6Khz
which makes it the brightest and clearest of the group;)
it has the same RP as a 59b:eek:
 
Pete was saying that the C-5 was brightest and also brighter than the Jb according to some. I can't determine since I don't have the Custom. :D

Unless he's talking about the 59 being brighter than the CC and not as bright as the C-5. I don't know...
 
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