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astrozombie said:
thats cute.

I play .13s on my jaguar.

it still isnt enough for C. (hello fretbuzz)

you need a different guitar bro, sadly.

whats wrong with standard tuning?

where are all the NORMAL metal bands these days? everyones a pioneer.. :laugh2:
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If you go back and check out his link you will see they are not metal at all. I made the same mistake jumping to conclusions. I still dont see a reason to tune that low though.
 
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I can't see how tuning to C# on a Jaguar with 11's isn't already too loose and muddy. It really does sound like the singer doesn't know what he's talking about. Does the singer ever make any changes for your behalf?
 
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This is so wrong in so many ways

What you need is an old man with an attitude, a heap of good sense, and a stick. fortunately for you, my calendar is free...

#1 Going low? Get a baritone. Or at least a longer scale neck

#2 I do not believe for a second you have a singer. I bet he is a shouter and can only shout in one key.

#3 Just play a different chord. There is this guy called the Bass player. Maybe you have heard of him. Lots of low notes and stuff. Pretty soon you won't need him.

Seriously - Tune back up, and play the songs in a different key, or get a new singer.

Cool option for 3 guitars:

Get a way low bass
A baritone guitar
two standard tone guitars

And totally fill the spectrum. But this will require REALLY playing in your tonal pocket and writing tunes that work for that.
 
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As somebody who plays and enjoys down-tuned heavy music, my opinion is that baritones don't sound as good as Gibson-scale guitars for downtuning...the closest thing to a baritone scale I like is a normal Strat scale...i've got my SG and soon will have my Warmoth Strat set-up for C standard with D'Addario's Baritone Light guage strings... .013-.062...HEAVY HEAVY FAT FAT DOOM...

Now none of this low-tuning stuff is gonna make the band any "tighter"...i'm thinking whoever said it would do that meant to say something else...
 
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Aceman said:
This is so wrong in so many ways

What you need is an old man with an attitude, a heap of good sense, and a stick. fortunately for you, my calendar is free...

#1 Going low? Get a baritone. Or at least a longer scale neck

#2 I do not believe for a second you have a singer. I bet he is a shouter and can only shout in one key.

#3 Just play a different chord. There is this guy called the Bass player. Maybe you have heard of him. Lots of low notes and stuff. Pretty soon you won't need him.

Seriously - Tune back up, and play the songs in a different key, or get a new singer.
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You're right on the money, Aceman. This guy better sing like Sinatra for these guys to even consider down-tuning that low. As the song says: "Dump that chump."
 
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am i the only one on this board that sings low enough that C standard tuning sounds better for me?
 
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Mincer said:
i thought guitars can play in any key?
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I was once telling someone that I have a 5-string bass, and he was like, "What's that 5th string for? Aren't the notes there if you move your fingers?" I actually agree with his reasoning, partially. Like, if you move to standard tuning, there may be some inversions, but most of the same notes are still there.
 
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TattooedCarrot said:
Sabbath played in C
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no they didnt. Db was the lowest they went, unless you know of some odd song they went to C for.


however...

spiritual beggars plays in C.
grand magus plays in C.
dethklok plays in C.

good enough for me.
 
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At that point, why not just have 4 bass players?
 
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I have a 27" aluminum guitar which is tuned to C (not drop C. C - so 4 semitones down). And it works quite fine :) With regular strings 10-54.
 
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I cannot help noticing that this thread is getting hung up on the "how low should you go" issue and ignoring the stated desire to "make the vocals tighter."

PLEASE NOTE: I have nothing against low tunings. Joni Mitchell has done wonderful things in alternate low tunings. (Well worth stealing! Visit her website for these.)

Would anybody on the forum care to make a case for how altering overall instrument PITCH can possibly affect vocal (or solo instrument) TIMING?
 
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We had a gig opening for a summer tour and had one song to play all the way Down B.
The other guitarist played in Dropped B but I played straight B

I took my Explorer and slapped on those Ernie Ball Beefy's and tuned it to straight B
That is way the heck down there. . . . it didn't have any buzz at all, I didn't change anything and it handled it just fine . . . We played different frettings of course for the song, but sounded fine. (Ahem . . I meant we sounded kick ass )

I have never played a jaguar, but I would imagine it would work fine.
 
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Can't you just play the songs in different keys in standard tuning? I must be missing something but we have 3 different vocalists in my band and all lead songs at times and require different keys, I play all the songs on the same guitar without changing tunings.

I mean given maybe it's not your ideal sound, or the easiest way to do it, but it is possible and better then downtuning to C#, that is just crazy to me...
 
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