Bassy Yngwie Pickups

[357mag]

I installed a set of the YJM Fury pickups in my rosewood Malmsteen Strat tonight and played for awhile. The sound was very, very bassy. No edge or definition at all. Too bassy to be usable for me.

But Yngwie uses maple-necked Strats and I think that plays a big part. Rosewood tends to give a warmer, fuller, rounder tone anyway.

So I'm gonna install some genuine single-coils. I had the Fender Custom Shop '69s in there and they really sounded good but the reason I took them out was cuz they were just a little bit thin on the high E string.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

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Amp setting changes or pickup heights,not making any difference?

 

[Jessie's ghost]

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Did you wire each pickup series or parallel?

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

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Did you wire each pickup series or parallel?

Are the pickups we're talking about stacked coil? I'm not that familiar with the newest series of this pickup?

 

[Stef]

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HS-3's work great with rosewood (all tone pots disconnected a la YJM), no idea about the SD fury...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDq4LnZ6cew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjXvTfVu_8A&feature=player_detailpage#t=37s

HS-3's have more bass than regular strat SC's but I dime the bass on my JMP lead amp and it doesn't sound bassy...
When I was looking for fury clips I couldn't find anything so here's more RW HS-3 clips (marshall lead amp again!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEgTEbxaiOA&feature=related

 

[357mag]

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I installed them in as instructed in the diagram. I've never had much luck with Duncan pickups. But as I stated, my neck is rosewood not maple and I know that is contributing to the overly warm, bassy tone.

 

[TheLivingDead]

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Weird.

 

[AlexR]

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Rosewood won't make it suddenly bassy where maple is bright - the differences between the woods are more subtle than that, especially when its a 5mm thick bit glued to a maple neck anyhow. I've got a YJM set and Ant surfers in two maple neck guitars - the YJM are a little less 3-d, but they are not worlds apart. My point is - I think its the wiring or the hookup, not the rosewood.

 

[357mag]

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I soldered the red and white wires together and taped them off. I soldered all green and bare wires to ground. I soldered the black wires to the switch.

That is what the diagram said to do.

And I've noticed there is a marked difference in sound between maple and rosewood. Very noticeable difference.

Had these pickups been installed in a maple-neck Strat I'm sure they would sound better than what my experience was.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Luckily there's an exchange policy, and Surfers fall in the same price range.

A Surfer Custom Bridge and Surfer neck/middle are the definitive Alnico 5 strat set, and you can't go wrong with them. They're probably brighter than YJM's, but in a good way.

Email Duncan for an exchange.

 

[Jessie's ghost]

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Are the pickups we're talking about stacked coil? I'm not that familiar with the newest series of this pickup?

Yes.

I soldered the red and white wires together and taped them off. I soldered all green and bare wires to ground. I soldered the black wires to the switch.

That is what the diagram said to do.

And I've noticed there is a marked difference in sound between maple and rosewood. Very noticeable difference.

Had these pickups been installed in a maple-neck Strat I'm sure they would sound better than what my experience was.

That wiring diagram is the same one they recommend for the Hot Rails and a bunch of other hum-cancelling "single-coils". The default hum-cancelling wiring is series, which will give you a louder, fatter, bassier, darker sound.

I started out with my HS-3's and DiMarzio YJM's wired up that way, and it wasn't the sound I was looking for. Wiring them up in parallel makes them sound more like single-coils and more like Malmsteen -- to me, anyway.

 

[xntrick]

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i'd be curious to see a diagram for parallel...

 

[LtKojak]

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I installed a set of the YJM Fury pickups in my rosewood Malmsteen Strat tonight and played for awhile. The sound was very, very bassy. No edge or definition at all. Too bassy to be usable for me.

But Yngwie uses maple-necked Strats and I think that plays a big part. Rosewood tends to give a warmer, fuller, rounder tone anyway.

So I'm gonna install some genuine single-coils. I had the Fender Custom Shop '69s in there and they really sounded good but the reason I took them out was cuz they were just a little bit thin on the high E string.

I've installed several YJM Fury sets and they don't sound at all as you're describing. So, my guess is something must be faulty with the wiring, or some of the components, including bad soldering. What pot values, BTW?

HTH,

 

[Jessie's ghost]

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I've installed several YJM Fury sets and they don't sound at all as you're describing. So, my guess is something must be faulty with the wiring, or some of the components, including bad soldering. What pot values, BTW?

HTH,

Do you run them parallel or series?

i'd be curious to see a diagram for parallel...

You take the "tops" of the two coils (black & red), short them together and take them to the switch/volume/output/whatever, then you take the "bottoms" of the two coils (white & green), short them together with the ground wire and take them all to ground. (You can also do most of this with switching if you want some versatility.)

 

[uOpt]

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What kind of guitar is that, specifically?

Does it have a trem, what kind and how did you set it up (floating etc)?

 

[LtKojak]

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Do you run them parallel or series?

Parallel, of course. You can't connect'em in RWRP series for positions 2 and 4 without a superswitch.

HTH,

 

[Jessie's ghost]

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Parallel, of course. You can't connect'em in RWRP series for positions 2 and 4 without a superswitch.

HTH,

I mean the internal connection of the coils within each pickup -- if you use the switch position for "just the neck pickup", are the two coils of the neck pickup in series with each other, or are they in parallel?