BBQ vrs SH-14
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rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
They are nothing alike. The Custom 5 has a scooped midrange, with a ton of bass and treble. The BBQ has a nice bass response, but it also has boosted mids and a slightly rolled back treble response. The Custom 5 is a very bright pickup, while the BBQ is one of the warmest sounding alnico 5 pickups I've tried. As far as output, I would say the BBQ has a little less output than the C5. Personally, I love the BBQ and hate the C5. It depends a lot on your setup and the tone you're after, but I don't typically recommend the C5 unless you have a dark sounding guitar and an amp that is very midrange-heavy.
Ryan
They are nothing alike. The Custom 5 has a scooped midrange, with a ton of bass and treble. The BBQ has a nice bass response, but it also has boosted mids and a slightly rolled back treble response. The Custom 5 is a very bright pickup, while the BBQ is one of the warmest sounding alnico 5 pickups I've tried. As far as output, I would say the BBQ has a little less output than the C5. Personally, I love the BBQ and hate the C5. It depends a lot on your setup and the tone you're after, but I don't typically recommend the C5 unless you have a dark sounding guitar and an amp that is very midrange-heavy.
Ryan
Edgecrusher
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
I agree 100%... They dont have many similarities...
rspst14 said:
I agree 100%... They dont have many similarities...
Maximusgordon 2.0
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
yah, very different sounding. The BBQ has a very fat midrange and thick sound, the C5 has very natural sounding open mids, the only similarity is that they both have a pretty ballsy tone and a PAFish flavor, but in two very different ways.
yah, very different sounding. The BBQ has a very fat midrange and thick sound, the C5 has very natural sounding open mids, the only similarity is that they both have a pretty ballsy tone and a PAFish flavor, but in two very different ways.
January_Embers
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
What about BBQ vs CC?
What about BBQ vs CC?
Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
Tone Cat: Maybe the question should be rephrased to take advantage of your considerable knowledge of these pickups. Does Duncan make a pickup with similiar tone to the BBQ? It sounds like the BBQ is what I'm looking for, but I'll need a pup with trembucker spacing. thanks
Tone Cat: Maybe the question should be rephrased to take advantage of your considerable knowledge of these pickups. Does Duncan make a pickup with similiar tone to the BBQ? It sounds like the BBQ is what I'm looking for, but I'll need a pup with trembucker spacing. thanks
rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
No, Duncan does not make a pickup similar to the BBQ. The closest they come is the Blues Trembucker, which is my favorite Duncan bridge pickup by the way. The EQ is somewhat in the ballpark, but the Blues has less output and a bit more treble than the BBQ.
The good thing about the BBQ is that Rio Grande designs them to be "one size fits all." They are slightly wider than a standard spaced humbucker, but not quite as wide as a trembucker. This is a good compromise which allows an almost perfect fit on a wide variety of guitars. So I wouldn't worry about the spacing.
Ryan
No, Duncan does not make a pickup similar to the BBQ. The closest they come is the Blues Trembucker, which is my favorite Duncan bridge pickup by the way. The EQ is somewhat in the ballpark, but the Blues has less output and a bit more treble than the BBQ.
The good thing about the BBQ is that Rio Grande designs them to be "one size fits all." They are slightly wider than a standard spaced humbucker, but not quite as wide as a trembucker. This is a good compromise which allows an almost perfect fit on a wide variety of guitars. So I wouldn't worry about the spacing.
Ryan
Mac-P
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
Yea, I have no idea why people constantly ask about the BBQ and C5. It's weird. They are the furthest thing in the universe away from eachother.
I agree with the above descriptions of both. And no, Duncan does not make a similar pickup to the BBQ. The closest thing is a JB which has less bass and is brighter, but witg a similar "push" in the mids. But the BBQ is warmer and has a bigger low end. MUCH bigger I might add than the C5 (which I find to be tinny, shrill and small sounding in the mix with a band).
Yea, I have no idea why people constantly ask about the BBQ and C5. It's weird. They are the furthest thing in the universe away from eachother.
I agree with the above descriptions of both. And no, Duncan does not make a similar pickup to the BBQ. The closest thing is a JB which has less bass and is brighter, but witg a similar "push" in the mids. But the BBQ is warmer and has a bigger low end. MUCH bigger I might add than the C5 (which I find to be tinny, shrill and small sounding in the mix with a band).
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
Do they make a BBQ that is hotter than the C5?
Do they make a BBQ that is hotter than the C5?
Gearjoneser
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
This problem always leads me to the conclusion that Duncan needs another pickup, which would be a hot alnico 5 like a Custom 5 overwound. A big, fat ballsy A5 humbucker with big lower mids.
This problem always leads me to the conclusion that Duncan needs another pickup, which would be a hot alnico 5 like a Custom 5 overwound. A big, fat ballsy A5 humbucker with big lower mids.
Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
Yeah, the C-5 wants to be fat, but it's on a friggin diet in the mids... Especially VS the A2 JB I have in another guitar :laugh2:
When I get my PC back (hopefully tomorrow fingers crossed) I'll see if I can post a comparison clip I made of the A2 JB, Custom, and C-5 (all in different guitars mind...) and the difference in midrange and cut in the solo's is pretty large imo when comparing the custom/A2 JB to the C-5.
Gearjoneser said:
Yeah, the C-5 wants to be fat, but it's on a friggin diet in the mids... Especially VS the A2 JB I have in another guitar :laugh2:
When I get my PC back (hopefully tomorrow fingers crossed) I'll see if I can post a comparison clip I made of the A2 JB, Custom, and C-5 (all in different guitars mind...) and the difference in midrange and cut in the solo's is pretty large imo when comparing the custom/A2 JB to the C-5.
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
Has anyone heard the Rio Muy Grande? How is this compared to the BBQ?
Is the BBQ or Muy Grande hotter than the C5?
Has anyone heard the Rio Muy Grande? How is this compared to the BBQ?
Is the BBQ or Muy Grande hotter than the C5?
twoheadedboy
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
ahh, this is making the C-5 sound perfect for my guitar. It's mahogany, but it's not particularly lively, so you get lots of boomy lows and low mids but not much else. It needs to be livened up a bit, and i'm hoping this pickup will do that.
ahh, this is making the C-5 sound perfect for my guitar. It's mahogany, but it's not particularly lively, so you get lots of boomy lows and low mids but not much else. It needs to be livened up a bit, and i'm hoping this pickup will do that.
January_Embers
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
The BBQ sounds like it would the perfect pickup for me! I have been dying to try a CC too though and since thats just a magnet swap away I'll do that first, but damn, the BBQ seriously sounds like it would be perfect for me. One question that might a little harder to answer: How does it feel? Is it stiff or loose? Tight bass? Smooth highs? :question:
Edit: I currently have a C-5 and its too thin!
The BBQ sounds like it would the perfect pickup for me! I have been dying to try a CC too though and since thats just a magnet swap away I'll do that first, but damn, the BBQ seriously sounds like it would be perfect for me. One question that might a little harder to answer: How does it feel? Is it stiff or loose? Tight bass? Smooth highs? :question:
Edit: I currently have a C-5 and its too thin!
rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
It has a strong bass response, a good amount of mids, and highs that are warm and sweet instead of bright and harsh. I wouldn't say it's stiff or loose sounding, but I would say it's the fattest sounding humbucker I've ever tried.
No, they only make one model, which has a little less output than the C5.
The Blues is my favorite Duncan bridge pickup. It uses the special parallel axis design, so it does look a little different. It sounds amazing though, think of it as a '59 with a little more output, a little less bass and treble, and a little more midrange. It has a very balanced EQ, and isn't too warm or too bright. It's a very versatile pickup that can cover a wide range of styles, and it works well in a lot of different guitars.
To my ears, the BBQ actually has a bit less low end than the C5. But I also used them in different guitars with different scale lengths and different neck construction methods, which probably accounts for some of the difference. I always felt like the C5 was excessively bassy in the low end, scooped in the mids, and then excessively bright in the high end. I agree that it can sound somewhat thin in certain guitars.
Ryan
January_Embers said:
It has a strong bass response, a good amount of mids, and highs that are warm and sweet instead of bright and harsh. I wouldn't say it's stiff or loose sounding, but I would say it's the fattest sounding humbucker I've ever tried.
KLINKDETROIT said:
No, they only make one model, which has a little less output than the C5.
papersoul said:
The Blues is my favorite Duncan bridge pickup. It uses the special parallel axis design, so it does look a little different. It sounds amazing though, think of it as a '59 with a little more output, a little less bass and treble, and a little more midrange. It has a very balanced EQ, and isn't too warm or too bright. It's a very versatile pickup that can cover a wide range of styles, and it works well in a lot of different guitars.
Mac-P said:
To my ears, the BBQ actually has a bit less low end than the C5. But I also used them in different guitars with different scale lengths and different neck construction methods, which probably accounts for some of the difference. I always felt like the C5 was excessively bassy in the low end, scooped in the mids, and then excessively bright in the high end. I agree that it can sound somewhat thin in certain guitars.
Ryan
KLINKDETROIT
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Re: BBQ vrs SH-14
I agree with your C5 description. Is the BBQ less output than the Blues trembucker? What percentage would you say the BBQ is less gainy than the C5? Is there a way to get more gain from the BBQ pickup? My ideal amount of gain is somewhere between the C5 and the original PATB1.
rspst14 said:
I agree with your C5 description. Is the BBQ less output than the Blues trembucker? What percentage would you say the BBQ is less gainy than the C5? Is there a way to get more gain from the BBQ pickup? My ideal amount of gain is somewhere between the C5 and the original PATB1.
