Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

Ibanez Artcore hollow
Flatwound 11's from anyone
Solid state amp with knobs set right

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- The only solid-state amp in my home right now is a Danelectro Honeytone.

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[Aceman]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

Is the razor there for size comparison, or is it a cry for help?

OK - maybe not the Honeytone, but run of the mill Crate, Peavey, Roland, whatever in the 30 watt range and move on. My Peavey Studio Pro could craft some jazz sounds way sweeter than any chops I could apply to them.

 

[Diego]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

The current owner of my old Roland Cube 60 gets some KILLER Jazz tones out of it with a Epiphone Dot.

He just stays in the JC120 channel and uses a couple of pedals here and there.
Sounds like a grand piano.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

Is the razor there for size comparison, or is it a cry for help?

Ha! The razor blade was already there; I was using it to open the Lutron package and decided to leave it for scale.

What advantage does a solid-state amp have over a clean tube amp that's comfortably far from breakup in both the preamp and power sections? I might be forced to make do with a tube amp for a while. When I tried out the Ibanez, I was getting pleasing sounds from a Peavey ValveKing.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

Waaaa... I have to use a tube amp to get a jazz tone. :chairfall

I guarantee I could get an awesome jazz tone out of any of my tube amps.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

I was being facetious. My confidence on being able to get great jazz tones out of each of my three tube amps:

One "Definitely."
One "Most likely."
And a "Probably."

 

[GoldenVulture]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

Is the razor there for size comparison, or chopping up coke ?

OK - maybe not the Honeytone, but run of the mill Crate, Peavey, Roland, whatever in the 30 watt range and move on. My Peavey Studio Pro could craft some jazz sounds way sweeter than any chops I could apply to them.

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[Mincer]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

I know George Van Eps tuned string 7 down to A, and used between .075 and .080 for it. He was also tuned down a whole step (so the A was really a G). His music really benefits from that deep bass.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

I might encounter resistance from the guitar's own hardware if I try to go higher than the Chrome 65 I have right now. The hole in the tuning peg and the slot in the tailpiece may object.

 

[TimmyPage]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

I know George Van Eps tuned string 7 down to A, and used between .075 and .080 for it. He was also tuned down a whole step (so the A was really a G). His music really benefits from that deep bass.

The A string has some really cool uses too in terms of giving yourself bass notes an harmony. Any note that you would normally play on the A string can now be shifted down two strings to the low A without changing fingerings at all.

A fairly standard Major 9 voicing like CMaj9: (x 3 2 4 3 x) can now be played with the C on the 7th string as such: (3 x x 2 4 3 x) with the same harmony and melodic notes but a much richer bass sound. If you really wanted a lush chord in solo guitar you could even just play the doublings and the 5th: ( 3 3 3 2 4 3 x ) with your middle finger barring C, G, C on the bottom three strings.

 

[MetalManiac]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

Ha! The razor blade was already there; I was using it to open the Lutron package and decided to leave it for scale.

of course it was..talk to me, I'm here for you.

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

I know George Van Eps tuned string 7 down to A, and used between .075 and .080 for it. He was also tuned down a whole step (so the A was really a G). His music really benefits from that deep bass.

Serious tone. Can you find any clips where we can clearly hear the drop G?!

 

[Johnny the Kid]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

In Jazz you don't bend. You "slur".

HTH,

This is true. I had to play a solo for jazz combo and I thought my professor was going to recreate a scene from Whiplash when I bent up a whole step.

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

^ Then ax them what's their opinion of this guy's technique.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Beginner jazz: Which string set to start with?

Serious tone. Can you find any clips where we can clearly hear the drop G?!

He has several entire albums on YouTube. My guess is that most of his recorded output is out of print.