Belated NAD - Why aren't these more popular?

[Archer250]

​​​​Got this last weekend or so.

Now here's something I never got.

Why weren't these more popular? I know the world has a gorillion amps that try to do everything at once, but idk I think sound-wise this is just better than 90% of 3 and 4 channel amps out there. And the UI is pretty intuitive.

Anyways, been busy. Haven't had much time to play or practice, but...

Marshall really should have made a 30w version of this or sth. Would be the ultimate gigging amp

 

[Artie]

Nice. Looks super versatile. How difficult is that to acquire in Bangkok?

 

[Securb]

It is a great amp. They are not more popular because idiots listen to the internet and Marshall marketing and think the JCM800 2203 is the only great-sounding Marshall on the planet.

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

Congratulations!

In my humble opinion..... That's the best amp ever made!

 

[Archer250]

Nice. Looks super versatile. How difficult is that to acquire in Bangkok?

Used? Show up in Marketplace once or twice a month

 

[Archer250]

It is a great amp. They are not more popular because idiots listen to the internet and Marshall marketing and think the JCM800 2203 is the only great-sounding Marshall on the planet.

In all fairness, I prefer a boosted JCM 800's tone, but this thing gets close with far less hassle

 

[Masta' C]

If I was buying a Marshall, that's the one I would get!

 

[Mincer]

I think the control panel freaked out people used to old school Marshalls. Marshall was always stuck between trying to replicate the past while also innovating (kinda like Gibson).

 

[AdrianSD]

It is a great amp. They are not more popular because idiots listen to the internet and Marshall marketing and think the JCM800 2203 is the only great-sounding Marshall on the planet.

Funny how in the '90s hoards of players couldn't get rid of those JCM800 fast enough, then it all took a 180 degrees turn and the 800 is THE Marshall amp! The internet also tells me that the JCM900, JCM2000 and the DSL100 are sh^t amps, I'm really afraid to ask AI what they/them think
Archer250 HNAD, I wish I could plug into a JVM410 one day!

 

[Cynical]

It is a great amp. They are not more popular because idiots listen to the internet and Marshall marketing and think the JCM800 2203 is the only great-sounding Marshall on the planet.

The problem Marshall has is that the 2203 is so iconic that everyone who would take a Marshall over a Mesa is chasing *that* specific sound, and the JVM isn't that sound.

Funny how in the '90s hoards of players couldn't get rid of those JCM800 fast enough, then it all took a 180 degrees turn and the 800 is THE Marshall amp!

A lot of this is because of the cabs -- in the '80s, all of the JCM800 line had a bad reputation compared to the older lines (despite the circuits being the same), but later people figured out that it was actually the JCM800 cabs (which legitimately were crap) that those 2203s were sitting on top of that they hated, not the 2203s themselves.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

I like JCM 800's but only after they've been modded (extra preamp tube) & boosted (or they just sound weak & anemic), while the JVM is all set to go out of the gate...and as far as I'm concened the less fuss the better :bigthumb:

I also prefer the spongier feel the JVM has..

Pretty sure you can at the very least get a great approximation of just about any classic Marshall tone you want from this amp...if you're into tone chasing (I'm not). Otherwise it has absolutely phenomenal tones of it's own..

Enjoy the JVM. I love mine :bigthumb:

 

[GuitarStv]

I've always been kinda fascinated by these, but intimidated by the knobs and options.

 

[PS412]

Ohhh, nice amp indeed. You can cover pretty much any style you need.
When I went on the hunt for a JVM the guy at the music store said," You can get it to sound like any Marshall but no other Marshall sounds like the JVM." Now I'm not going to say yes or no to that but it is an awesome amp.
I settled for a used 210h.
Congrats.

 

[PS412]

I've always been kinda fascinated by these, but intimidated by the knobs and options.

You seem of the ingenious sorts, maybe you could hook up a couple of Gibson robotuners to em.

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

I've always been kinda fascinated by these, but intimidated by the knobs and options.

That was my thought exactly until I got one, but after 5 minutes using the thing and I watched a short YouTube video on how to program the foot switch.... And now it's super easy.

 

[Securb]

The problem Marshall has is that the 2203 is so iconic that everyone who would take a Marshall over a Mesa is chasing *that* specific sound, and the JVM isn't that sound.

I have never played the JVM but my JCM 2000 does a spot on JCM 800 and JCM 900. Marshall has done a great job at incoperating those tones into their amps. I am leary when it comes to marketing but if Jim Marshall is telling me I can get a JCM800 tone out of the amp I tend to believe him. Especially seeing my experience acchiving that tone with my JCM 2000 has been very positive. If other amps manufacturers can recreate the "Marshall" tone I have faith in Marshall to reproduce their own iconic tones.

CLEAN/CRUNCH RED MODE: This mode is
reminiscent of the Marshall JCM800 2203
amplifier, a staple of hard rock. The gain
structure is gain + gain + gain + tone.

OVERDRIVE CHANNEL (9)
OVERDRIVE GREEN MODE: This is very
similar to the hot-rodded JCM800 sound found
in ‘Crunch Red’, allowing you to dial-in two
distinctly different yet similar crunch sounds if
you so wish - one in each channel.​

 

[Archer250]

Nvm I get it now why these weren't popular.

Mine just died for no reason. Lights turned on, but there's no sound. Opened it up, the fuses all check out alright

 

[GuitarStv]

Aww, that sucks.

 

[Archer250]

For some masochistic reason, I'm enjoying this more than actually playing.

 

[Cynical]

I have never played the JVM but my JCM 2000 does a spot on JCM 800 and JCM 900. Marshall has done a great job at incoperating those tones into their amps. I am leary when it comes to marketing but if Jim Marshall is telling me I can get a JCM800 tone out of the amp I tend to believe him. Especially seeing my experience acchiving that tone with my JCM 2000 has been very positive. If other amps manufacturers can recreate the "Marshall" tone I have faith in Marshall to reproduce their own iconic tones.

The JCM 2000 DSL does the 2203 sounds really well, which is why IME it's a lot more popular than the JVM has ever been. The JVM doesn't have the same bark, and just doesn't have the same "authority" for lack of a better word.