Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
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Jocelyn
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
I voted others, cause u can get both the contours of the Fenders's Strat and the cool warm tone of the Les pauls wich i love. Personely I love the thicker tones of Gibson. But ergonomic' I love the Strat. I have a Flying V copy and I must say its gets irritating at time to balance it, and its not comfortable at all. But on the other hand my friends strats are comfortable.
I am going in for sooner or later for a WARMOTH constrution "soloist" style body with the extra contours for more and better freedom to the higher frets.Of course the axe would be HUM HUM configuered.
I voted others, cause u can get both the contours of the Fenders's Strat and the cool warm tone of the Les pauls wich i love. Personely I love the thicker tones of Gibson. But ergonomic' I love the Strat. I have a Flying V copy and I must say its gets irritating at time to balance it, and its not comfortable at all. But on the other hand my friends strats are comfortable.
I am going in for sooner or later for a WARMOTH constrution "soloist" style body with the extra contours for more and better freedom to the higher frets.Of course the axe would be HUM HUM configuered.
JumpMarine
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
My winner, the Tele....for both comfort and control layout.
Strikes against the LP for lack of comfortable playing whil sitting...but awsome neck and control layout.
And a strike against the Strat for it's control layout....but plus for comfortable body lines.
My winner, the Tele....for both comfort and control layout.
Strikes against the LP for lack of comfortable playing whil sitting...but awsome neck and control layout.
And a strike against the Strat for it's control layout....but plus for comfortable body lines.
Jocelyn
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
I voted others, cause u can get both the contours of the Fenders's Strat and the cool warm tone of the Les pauls wich i love. Personely I love the thicker tones of Gibson. But ergonomic' I love the Strat. I have a Flying V copy and I must say its gets irritating at time to balance it, and its not comfortable at all. But on the other hand my friends strats are comfortable.
I am going in for sooner or later for a WARMOTH constrution "soloist" style body with the extra contour heel option for better and more freedom to higher frets. Ofcourse I will go in for a HUM HUm config.
I voted others, cause u can get both the contours of the Fenders's Strat and the cool warm tone of the Les pauls wich i love. Personely I love the thicker tones of Gibson. But ergonomic' I love the Strat. I have a Flying V copy and I must say its gets irritating at time to balance it, and its not comfortable at all. But on the other hand my friends strats are comfortable.
I am going in for sooner or later for a WARMOTH constrution "soloist" style body with the extra contour heel option for better and more freedom to higher frets. Ofcourse I will go in for a HUM HUm config.
Gearjoneser
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
I'm a major Strat/Paul guy, and would say the Strat for this poll.
However, I think the best ergonomic design, for me, is the PRS McCarty.
The whole design of the PRS was to bridge the gap between a strat's comfort,
and a Les Paul's neck and tone, with a bit of strat/tele thrown in.
With the PRS McCarty, you get the comfortable strat shaped body, a substantial neck that doesn't fatique your hand, sustain and articulation that's better than both strats and pauls, and a bridge that's simple and smooth to rest your hand on. Also the knobs and toggle are in a better position than both strats and pauls IMO, not to mention the pullup tone for single coil operation. I say the PRS McCarty.
I'm a major Strat/Paul guy, and would say the Strat for this poll.
However, I think the best ergonomic design, for me, is the PRS McCarty.
The whole design of the PRS was to bridge the gap between a strat's comfort,
and a Les Paul's neck and tone, with a bit of strat/tele thrown in.
With the PRS McCarty, you get the comfortable strat shaped body, a substantial neck that doesn't fatique your hand, sustain and articulation that's better than both strats and pauls, and a bridge that's simple and smooth to rest your hand on. Also the knobs and toggle are in a better position than both strats and pauls IMO, not to mention the pullup tone for single coil operation. I say the PRS McCarty.
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Maggie
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
Lemme give you a cute analogy for how this thread rings in my head:
Suppose you go to an auto show. At this auto show, someone is selling Ferraris for the price of Hondas. You see a crowd milling in the corner. Approaching them, you inquire after their topic of conversation. "We're discussing our preference between Chevys and Fords."
Lemme give you a cute analogy for how this thread rings in my head:
Suppose you go to an auto show. At this auto show, someone is selling Ferraris for the price of Hondas. You see a crowd milling in the corner. Approaching them, you inquire after their topic of conversation. "We're discussing our preference between Chevys and Fords."
Guitarist
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
Even as a LP fanatic, who seldom works with Strats do to many speculations that I have set new standards for, being a user of Les Pauls, Strats are simply put - designed pretty flawlessly. The lesser sustain, the lesser control I feel with the tone pots, etc. turns me off from Strats, but there's no denying the structure is a near-miss of perfection.
Even as a LP fanatic, who seldom works with Strats do to many speculations that I have set new standards for, being a user of Les Pauls, Strats are simply put - designed pretty flawlessly. The lesser sustain, the lesser control I feel with the tone pots, etc. turns me off from Strats, but there's no denying the structure is a near-miss of perfection.
Maggie
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I can deny it and I will! Why is there a sizable cottage-industry of products produced in attempt to overcome various of the Strat's problems? Why can I knock a Strat out of tune very easily? Why does it take 10-20 minutes to re-string a Strat, even if you're good at it?
If a guitar doesn't structurally have satisfying sustain, how can it be a "near-miss of perfection"? Isn't sustain one of the most elemental and important functions of structural guitar-body design- you know, that and being able to hold strings to-pitch?
Of course, most of this is moot, as guitar design is such a subjective art. Beyond basic functions (again, like holding strings to-pitch), it's all a matter of taste, so "perfection" is a tough idea to argue (on either side).
Guitarist said:
I can deny it and I will! Why is there a sizable cottage-industry of products produced in attempt to overcome various of the Strat's problems? Why can I knock a Strat out of tune very easily? Why does it take 10-20 minutes to re-string a Strat, even if you're good at it?
If a guitar doesn't structurally have satisfying sustain, how can it be a "near-miss of perfection"? Isn't sustain one of the most elemental and important functions of structural guitar-body design- you know, that and being able to hold strings to-pitch?
Of course, most of this is moot, as guitar design is such a subjective art. Beyond basic functions (again, like holding strings to-pitch), it's all a matter of taste, so "perfection" is a tough idea to argue (on either side).
midnite_man
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Strat
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
An LP would be fine if I sanded contours in the back and for the forearm and hollowed it out a little.
My Brian Moore and Erine Ball are really comfortable, they just melt into your body.
The most ergonomic design I've played (and one of the best guitars I have ever played) was a Klein Electric. Strange looking, but you can hold it with 1 finger under the cutout and it will balance perfectly. Never played anything that felt as a natural extension of my body- an amazing experience! Playing one makes a Strat feel like it is covered in spikes. Problem is, the *used* one I tried was $3.5k..New are well over 4. http://www.kleinelectricguitars.com
An LP would be fine if I sanded contours in the back and for the forearm and hollowed it out a little.
My Brian Moore and Erine Ball are really comfortable, they just melt into your body.
The most ergonomic design I've played (and one of the best guitars I have ever played) was a Klein Electric. Strange looking, but you can hold it with 1 finger under the cutout and it will balance perfectly. Never played anything that felt as a natural extension of my body- an amazing experience! Playing one makes a Strat feel like it is covered in spikes. Problem is, the *used* one I tried was $3.5k..New are well over 4. http://www.kleinelectricguitars.com
frigginalex
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
I like the Strat's body and shape better because it's lighter, thinner, and the body's a little wider than a LP so I don't have to hunch over to play it. I like the Les Paul tone better, though.
I like the Strat's body and shape better because it's lighter, thinner, and the body's a little wider than a LP so I don't have to hunch over to play it. I like the Les Paul tone better, though.
kill your scene
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I have to go with Fender. I used to have a Les Paul and I'll admit that it was very comfortable once you got used to it, but it still wasn't ergonomically PERFECT like the Strat. The Strat is amazing for comfort and, if you're smart enough to buy a Fat, has great tone to boot.
I think the least ergonomical is anything that's neck-heavy. Gibson SGs have this problem, as do many "metal" axes such as Jackson Kellys, Gibson Explorers, ESP Vipers, et cetera. No matter how cool they look, I just can't tolerate having to hold the thing up all night.
People who play Gibson basses (more specifically, the EB0) love to brag about how small and lightweight their instrument is. I would prefer a larger body and some more mass because it keeps the instrument balanced... if the neck is heavier than the body, you've got a problem.
Fenders always seem to balance perfectly and fit like a glove. Sorry for my little diatribe, but nose-dive is a huge peeve of mine.
I have to go with Fender. I used to have a Les Paul and I'll admit that it was very comfortable once you got used to it, but it still wasn't ergonomically PERFECT like the Strat. The Strat is amazing for comfort and, if you're smart enough to buy a Fat, has great tone to boot.
I think the least ergonomical is anything that's neck-heavy. Gibson SGs have this problem, as do many "metal" axes such as Jackson Kellys, Gibson Explorers, ESP Vipers, et cetera. No matter how cool they look, I just can't tolerate having to hold the thing up all night.
People who play Gibson basses (more specifically, the EB0) love to brag about how small and lightweight their instrument is. I would prefer a larger body and some more mass because it keeps the instrument balanced... if the neck is heavier than the body, you've got a problem.
Fenders always seem to balance perfectly and fit like a glove. Sorry for my little diatribe, but nose-dive is a huge peeve of mine.
italic zero
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
I like a cross between the two. Point in case being my schecter 006 elite.
I like a cross between the two. Point in case being my schecter 006 elite.
BombsAwayJ
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I say Fender, just simply because of the contours. The volume knob is a pain, and so is the middle pickup if you have the single coils, but those problems can be overcome quite easily. It's like different pillows, fender is like those big plushy pillows that feel nice but gibsons are the kinda stiff ones that give you what you really need like head support which in turn would be, tone.
I have the same axe, and it would be so perfect if it had the fender contours.
I say Fender, just simply because of the contours. The volume knob is a pain, and so is the middle pickup if you have the single coils, but those problems can be overcome quite easily. It's like different pillows, fender is like those big plushy pillows that feel nice but gibsons are the kinda stiff ones that give you what you really need like head support which in turn would be, tone.
italic zero said:
I have the same axe, and it would be so perfect if it had the fender contours.
Jocelyn
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
hi ther thats exactly what i was trying to say. that the same problem i am having with my " Flying V". Its super light ican literlay lift it with 2 fingers. But u know what the neck is heavier , so it make it diff to balance pluss add that discomfort of the missing contours.
kill your scene said:
hi ther thats exactly what i was trying to say. that the same problem i am having with my " Flying V". Its super light ican literlay lift it with 2 fingers. But u know what the neck is heavier , so it make it diff to balance pluss add that discomfort of the missing contours.
Empty Pockets
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Re: Best ergonomic Design: Fender or Gibson
I love my Strat, I can throw it against walls and it keeps in tune pretty well...
I love my Strat, I can throw it against walls and it keeps in tune pretty well...
