Best locking trem system?

[gman128]

Re: Best locking trem system?

Ibanez Edge - end of story! I have a lo pro-edge equipped guitar and i find it harder to disassemble and maintain.

The OFR is inferior to it and I have not tried a gotoh floyd, but if it is the amalgamation of an OFR and an ibanez edge, then it is surely the best trem.

 

[vinta9e]

Re: Best locking trem system?

Haven't tried any of the 'good' edge tremolos, only the Edge III which is probably the bottom of the sh*t barrel for licensed Floyds. Intrigued by the ZR trem though, and I really want to get a kahler equipped guitar.

From my experience, I use mainly the German Schaller Floyds, though I have a (stupid) bias for them because I am German myself. Pretty hypocritical of me I must say, as I usually am annoyed when people take too much pride in their nationality.

I don't think there is anything inappropriate in German people being proud of the Schaller Floyd. :beerchug:

It's compact, and has a tone & feel of its own. Save for a different baseplate and locking screws, it's exactly the same parts as the OFR, isn't it? Spares are inexpensive and can be bought anywhere in the world. Caparison has a preference for Schaller bridges. Jackson/Charvel used them years ago. Same for Ran and Mayones.

Is it the best as in THE BEST CUSTOM SHOP ZEPHYR HSS SHORT-SCALE STRAT WITH 24 FRETS?

Probably not but I don't give a flying duck. I do like it a lot. I do like a nice Original, too. Ibanez Edge and Lo Pro Edge feel easy but maybe even too girly for me, and I'm not really obsessed about their airy tone either. Haven't got a Gotoh yet. I doubt I'll ever be graced with the privilege of giving the Steeler a manly shake, but I think I can live with it.

Titanium is promised to be the new holy grail. But I'll pass for now.
When I become a millionnaire, I am going to put one on my toilet, so I can flush with style.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I just want to add that the LO-TRS II that was in my M-350 is probably the ****tiest, and is not the same thing as the Takeuchi JT580LP. Second worse would be the licensed trem on an old Washburn crapper I had once.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Best locking trem system?

My favorites of what I've played:
German OFR
Ibanez Edge
Ibanez Edge Lo-Pro

By the way -- it must be Thursday.

 

[TheLivingDead]

Re: Best locking trem system?

Ibby Edge for me.

 

[BigBazz]

Re: Best locking trem system?

My Jem's Lo-Pro edge had a party trick for years that I could dive bomb my face off for months and never had to tune it (other than when changing strings), inbetween shows I didn't need to tune it and didn't have a tuner on stage with me, it simply never went out of tune. Years of abuse took it's toll though, it is 19 years old but with the knife edges filed and a good setup it will probably be back to the the guitar that never goes out of tune.

With that said I find the Floyd Rose on my strat sounds better, holds harmonics with better sustain but it doesn't stay in tune in quite the same way.

 

[Petrovsk Mizinski]

Re: Best locking trem system?

Original Edge and Edge Pro. With the locking stud mod, the Edge Pro is brilliant, maybe even a tad better than original Edge.
The Gotoh is very nice too.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the more modern Ibanez locking systems, the ZPS equipped ones.
The design makes it impossible to have the space to change out the trem block if you wanna put a bigger aftermarket one in there and it seems like a case of trying to fix what ain't broke

 

[B2D]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I have to admit I'm surprised to see so much love for the Ibanez Edge here.

Where would I go to buy a Gotoh Floyd if I wanted one? A quick Google search didn't point me any specific direction.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I love my Lo-pro edge. Works perfectly and keeps perfect tune after 20 years of heavy abuse.

...& the ZR I have on my 7-string is like a rock as well....not to mention so much more convenient when you need to change/straighten the trem angle against the body.

 

[Ashurbanipal]

Re: Best locking trem system?

Back on topic, the Schallers are great, but I am very open to any trem designs, such as the stetsbar, or Brian May's original designed (ghetto-rigged) tremolo. Kinda baffled as to why his design hasn't caught on.

Well, Brian's trem isn't locking . There are some impracticalities to the original design, such as the knife edge being screwed on to the guitar underneath the mahogany veneer. Though the design has stood the test of time (nearly 50 years of abuse!), I think the average guitarist would be a bit leery of having a part that's not so easily replaceable Also, because the bolts holding the springs go through the trem block, it has more limited range. Over the past 20 years, non locking trems have been introduced, like Wilkinson, which have more range and good tuning stability when combined with a friction reducing nut and locking tuners.

Original Edge and Edge Pro. With the locking stud mod, the Edge Pro is brilliant, maybe even a tad better than original Edge.
The Gotoh is very nice too.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the more modern Ibanez locking systems, the ZPS equipped ones.
The design makes it impossible to have the space to change out the trem block if you wanna put a bigger aftermarket one in there and it seems like a case of trying to fix what ain't broke

Yeah, it's one reason I'm a bit skeptical of trems with the ZPS - the small sustain block. I should actually go play one...

 

[Adieu]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I love my Lo-pro edge. Works perfectly and keeps perfect tune after 20 years of heavy abuse..

My Jem's Lo-Pro edge had a party trick for years that I could dive bomb my face off for months and never had to tune it (other than when changing strings), inbetween shows I didn't need to tune it and didn't have a tuner on stage with me, it simply never went out of tune. Years of abuse took it's toll though, it is 19 years old but with the knife edges filed and a good setup it will probably be back to the the guitar that never goes out of tune.

My favorites of what I've played:
German OFR
Ibanez Edge
Ibanez Edge Lo-Pro

Lol, guys, IS THIS THE SAME FORUM AS LAST WEEK??!?!?

Just days ago, a crowd of people lined up to give me flak for suggesting the Ibby Lo Pro Edge in a couple posts. MAJOR HATE. Something to the tone of "this here idiot keeps touting the LoPro Edge, c'mon, who the heck can take him seriously after that?" as a personal attack in an unrelated topic. Sooo much of it that I was having doubts about saying anything, not being a major trem user myself - mostly because, other than the LoPro Edge, they all seem to get in the way and cause more trouble than they're worth, while not doing the job as advertised... I actually read this carefully to see if anyone would say it before me, and only posted my fave when someone else did.

And - SUDDENLY - avalanche of LoPro Edge users... hehe. And, judging by the number just saying Edge, with no other details, maybe a lot more than at first glance even.

So what was the hater's deal? Was he thinking about some crappy "Edge"-branded product from recent IndoChina days??? Just in case I wanna refine my vote: JAPANESE, 1990s LO PRO EDGE.

As to shaller, I gotta ask, I seem to see so many of them with parts missing, partially replaced mismatched saddles etc., warped scuffed stuff and so on and so on... are they really good but very fragile or something??

My LoPro Edge seems bulletproof, not a mark on it, despite the guitar clearly having been owned by a crackhead for the last few years before me. And I don't think I've ever seen missing/replaced parts on those, what was your experience guys, did I just get lucky, or are they way more durable as I thought??

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Best locking trem system?

The difference is that you were being a tool knob to a guy who was building something trying to bag on his choice of parts here the discussion is about preferences. Even then the people that blasted you for humping a lo pro's leg are not present in this thread so surprise surprise different people have different opinions. Even then just cause people have opinions doesnt mean they are right people are just discussing what they like not dogging on each other like you like to do. Yah dig?

 

[B2D]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I just want to add that the LO-TRS II that was in my M-350 is probably the ****tiest, and is not the same thing as the Takeuchi JT580LP. Second worse would be the licensed trem on an old Washburn crapper I had once.

I had two guitars with LO-TRS III systems and had trouble keeping both of them in tune. One of them wound up having a warped neck that contributed to the issue, and the second one just wasn't a very well built guitar. So that may have had something to do with it. Regardless, no more Lo-TRS IIs for me.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: Best locking trem system?

Personally, I'm not a fan of the more modern Ibanez locking systems, the ZPS equipped ones.
The design makes it impossible to have the space to change out the trem block if you wanna put a bigger aftermarket one in there and it seems like a case of trying to fix what ain't broke

Yeah, there's that, and it just feels weird, and it don't do flutter. I removed the bar, but it was gonna require a full setup again to run it like that, so I put it back. I'll get to it eventually.

 

[JohnHouston]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I played OFRs the most and they work great fer me. Ibanez might have a great trem but they dont make necks that get on with my hands.

 

[SrDeMaFp]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I played OFRs the most and they work great fer me. Ibanez might have a great trem but they dont make necks that get on with my hands.

Big ol' +1 to that.

 

[B2D]

Re: Best locking trem system?

I played OFRs the most and they work great fer me. Ibanez might have a great trem but they dont make necks that get on with my hands.

Yeah that Wizard profile is kind of a bugger for me too... sometimes I like it and sometimes I don't. I like it on the Vai Jems and some Prestige RG's but not often. I have to be in the mood for it.

The Satriani models hve necks that are recreations of a '56 Strat that Joe owns. It really makes those guitars stand apart from the rest of them.

 

[Ashurbanipal]

Re: Best locking trem system?

^^ That's why you get a 1986 Roadstar . Edge plus medium C, Fendery type neck, which is extremely comfortable. I don't like Wizard either, so everything 1987 onwards does little for me.

Yeah, the JS neck is wonderful. Now you can get a JS Premium, which is MII, and looks pretty damn good for the price.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Best locking trem system?

Lol, guys, IS THIS THE SAME FORUM AS LAST WEEK??!?!?

I don't know about anyone else, but I've been a fan of that trem since 1999.

 

[Adieu]

Re: Best locking trem system?

The difference is that you were being a tool knob to a guy who was building something trying to bag on his choice of parts here the discussion is about preferences. Even then the people that blasted you for humping a lo pro's leg are not present in this thread so surprise surprise different people have different opinions. Even then just cause people have opinions doesnt mean they are right people are just discussing what they like not dogging on each other like you like to do. Yah dig?

Posts
2,545
Likes (Given)
5
Likes (Received)
59

your stats. THAT JUST SAYS IT ALL.

...just cuz people are being polite to you and not saying anything doesn't mean you shouldn't re-evaluate your behaviour. C'mon, seriously YOU are telling ME that I'm not being nice enough?????????????????????????? Kick the drugs and lose the attitude. Jeez.