Best "Low Output" Pickups for High Gain
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RogerMexiko
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Sorry if I'm missing the point but didn't Seymour Duncan address this with the Gus G system? Low output pickups with the preamp module reportedly provides clarity, definition bass, mids and highs.
Sorry if I'm missing the point but didn't Seymour Duncan address this with the Gus G system? Low output pickups with the preamp module reportedly provides clarity, definition bass, mids and highs.
Silence Kid
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Missed the point as far as me never having heard of those. Based on utilizing a preamp, are those pickups truly "low output?" Aren't most actives low output, minus a preamp? The idea behind low output/high gain is increased clarity and dynamic response. How does the dynamic response of that set hold up? Not a general point for which actives are favored, but again I'm unfamiliar with the physics of that set.
Missed the point as far as me never having heard of those. Based on utilizing a preamp, are those pickups truly "low output?" Aren't most actives low output, minus a preamp? The idea behind low output/high gain is increased clarity and dynamic response. How does the dynamic response of that set hold up? Not a general point for which actives are favored, but again I'm unfamiliar with the physics of that set.
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RogerMexiko
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Don't know anything about physics. But do know that this set performs as advertised-http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/gus-g-blackouts-system
These babies let you hear every nuance of your technique through even the most blistering distortion. But like I said I may be missing the point.
Don't know anything about physics. But do know that this set performs as advertised-http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/gus-g-blackouts-system
These babies let you hear every nuance of your technique through even the most blistering distortion. But like I said I may be missing the point.
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Dave Locher
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They are built oddly - perhaps there are patents involved?
You and me both! I would LOVE to be able to buy a brand-new tarback at a reasonable price. I used a 335 with them for a couple years in a punkish rock band and loved them.
They are built oddly - perhaps there are patents involved?
hydro
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I am not sure, but I was under the impression that the epoxy tar kept a lot of people from looking inside them. From what I understand they have ceramic mags in them, but I don't think it's a mag that is made any more. Not sure why no one has tried to copy them - maybe because they are associated with the Norlin era guitars which are "not cool"? But used ones (especially bridge position) are relatively hard to find and aren't cheap.
I am not sure, but I was under the impression that the epoxy tar kept a lot of people from looking inside them. From what I understand they have ceramic mags in them, but I don't think it's a mag that is made any more. Not sure why no one has tried to copy them - maybe because they are associated with the Norlin era guitars which are "not cool"? But used ones (especially bridge position) are relatively hard to find and aren't cheap.
ColeJustesen
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I have a Jazz bridge paired with a Jazz neck in my Yamaha SL700S and it is incredibly tight! It works great for high gain and lower tunings. That said, prepare for a bright sound! I think it would benefit from having a 250K volume pot. I might have to try that at some point, but right now I just alter the eq on whatever amp I decide to use.
I think you will dig the Jazz bridge, just know going into that you will have really adjust your eq.
Cole
I have a Jazz bridge paired with a Jazz neck in my Yamaha SL700S and it is incredibly tight! It works great for high gain and lower tunings. That said, prepare for a bright sound! I think it would benefit from having a 250K volume pot. I might have to try that at some point, but right now I just alter the eq on whatever amp I decide to use.
I think you will dig the Jazz bridge, just know going into that you will have really adjust your eq.
Cole
Silence Kid
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I play a Jaguar/Jazzmasters, one of which has a Wide Range humbucker clone (bass-remover,) and a guitar with a Screamin Demon... I'm prepared for a bright sound
Glad the Jazz bridge is getting favorable opinions, can't wait to get it installed.
I play a Jaguar/Jazzmasters, one of which has a Wide Range humbucker clone (bass-remover,) and a guitar with a Screamin Demon... I'm prepared for a bright sound
Glad the Jazz bridge is getting favorable opinions, can't wait to get it installed.
ColeJustesen
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The guitar I have with the Jazz now had a Screamin' Demon before, trust me, prepare for a bright sound!I play a Jaguar/Jazzmasters, one of which has a Wide Range humbucker clone (bass-remover,) and a guitar with a Screamin Demon... I'm prepared for a bright sound
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Rex_Rocker
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I'm really digging the '59/Phat Cat combo. I rarely ever play anything but downtuned chunkah chunkah, and these pull it off just fine.
I have another guitar with the Slash bridge pickup. It's meh (to me). It works.
I'm really digging the '59/Phat Cat combo. I rarely ever play anything but downtuned chunkah chunkah, and these pull it off just fine.
I have another guitar with the Slash bridge pickup. It's meh (to me). It works.
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I have one guitar (out of 7) with a Jazz bridge and a Jazz neck. It is a beautiful,sound as you can EQ them to get equally high end or a mellower midish-tone by using your amps tone control. You can go to almost Strat like tones to heavy metal like sounds with a good Boost/Overdrive pedal or two.
I love this guitar for the matching of the bridge and neck p'ups that make it so versatile.
Buff
I have one guitar (out of 7) with a Jazz bridge and a Jazz neck. It is a beautiful,sound as you can EQ them to get equally high end or a mellower midish-tone by using your amps tone control. You can go to almost Strat like tones to heavy metal like sounds with a good Boost/Overdrive pedal or two.
I love this guitar for the matching of the bridge and neck p'ups that make it so versatile.
Buff
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MkIII Renegade
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Dimarzio HS3 and YJM, as well as the slightly hotter but not overbearing Duncan YJMs.
Dimarzio PAF PRo and Air Norton.
It is very rewarding to play low to moderate output pickups with a horse-whipped amp, which gives a clear but LOUD voice and still lets you hear the difference between players.
Dimarzio HS3 and YJM, as well as the slightly hotter but not overbearing Duncan YJMs.
Dimarzio PAF PRo and Air Norton.
It is very rewarding to play low to moderate output pickups with a horse-whipped amp, which gives a clear but LOUD voice and still lets you hear the difference between players.
Rex_Rocker
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I have a love/hate relationship with that pickup myself... but ATM, I love it in the bridge position. Really bright, clear, and snappy.
eclecticsynergy
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About the tarbacks, the combination of a lighter wind with a strong magnet is becoming more widely known and popular in recent years. Quite a few folks have posted that they've had good results hotrodding Duncan 59s with A8s and I saw at least one who put a ceramic in a 59B and loved it. As I remember, he called it a fire breathing monster. You might be able to approximate a tarback by trying a C8 in a Gibson humbucker, something like a 496T maybe? I bet a Duncan wind would sound better for this though. If the tarback ceramic mags were indeed of a discontinued type, I suspect it may have had more to do with size than formulation.
Calling LtKojak; he might know... Any info for us on tarbacks, Pepe?
About the tarbacks, the combination of a lighter wind with a strong magnet is becoming more widely known and popular in recent years. Quite a few folks have posted that they've had good results hotrodding Duncan 59s with A8s and I saw at least one who put a ceramic in a 59B and loved it. As I remember, he called it a fire breathing monster. You might be able to approximate a tarback by trying a C8 in a Gibson humbucker, something like a 496T maybe? I bet a Duncan wind would sound better for this though. If the tarback ceramic mags were indeed of a discontinued type, I suspect it may have had more to do with size than formulation.
Calling LtKojak; he might know... Any info for us on tarbacks, Pepe?
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