Best of the New Duncan Pedals

Best of the New Duncan Pedals


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Re: Best of the New Duncan Pedals

Like I stated earlier, I'm looking forward to getting my first one soon.

Maybe I have ingested the kool aid. I just wonder where the assumption is that poor quality components are being used now? Is this an assumption? Perhaps the QAQC is much tighter? Are we seeing posts of failing pedals now? I'm just asking. I really don't know.
 
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I wish I could thumbs up x100



Cmon Scott, you're a smart guy it was ALL about marketing. The new pedals are, minus Palladium, ASSEMBLED in Santa Barbara, not made. Duncan thinks that everyone is going to miss that detail I guess. They allegedly disassembled and checked pedals in the original series when we were there in '05 we SAW the disassembled Pup Boosters. SD is using the label to market AND get a hefty price bump.

To me this ties in with Pepe's thread. Where is Seymour in the middle of all this nonsense?

So I am guessing there are micro circuit boards being soldered by some machine off shore somewhere. Guessing. Them tested here in the US and then assembled which to me says installing jacks and switches and ports and testing the final product. I'm very okay with that.

I am only stating the appearance/perception is that the old line was recognized as needing improvement. They've attempted to improve it. What are the actual results?

I have several of the old pedals and all are working well still. I'm only talking about what I can see and I am also making assumptions. But I've been back here for a while now and don't see a lot of hate for the new line. Don't see a lot of complaints of failures, Etc.
 
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The new pedals look and feel more solid than the old ones, and do some things the old ones don't. I actually never looked where they were from.
 
Re: Best of the New Duncan Pedals

It's market perception, really. $249 for a pedal with Made in China on the back just feels like a $249 version of a $79 Mooer or Joyo to the consumer. You can't sell it, especially if you're not already a big name in pedals like Boss. They can get a high price for full featured delay pedals because they're fully trusted in the industry.

There are sophisticated machines in the medical industry that are made overseas, or have stuffed boards/components from overseas. With electronics, quality is simply a matter of choice, diligence, cost...Whatever barrier is in between you and quality, knock it down. Smartphone screens cracking? Use stronger glass. Electronics overheating? Fix your heat sink issues. How do you know you have a good design before shipping it? Your designers should have a good track record AND you'd better know how to test it for real-world abuse.

Auto makers recall cars constantly, and they're trying their best with pretty smart people. No one is perfect. But sending your designs offshore increases the odds of mishap.

Someone like MXR has been in the pedal game for a looong time. They have a proven track record. Why should your typical pedal customer buy a Vapor Trail instead of a Carbon Copy? Quality? No. Size? Nope. Price? Nope. An insert loop? BINGO. The pedal has to DO something that I can't get from other, more established pedal brands. There are dozens of compressors with dry blends and tone controls. The Double Back/Vise Grip is still (as far as I know) the only one that lets you shift the EQ of the dry blend.

Aside from that, like I said you can't have Chinese made copycat pedals at prices higher than MXR/EHX because no one will buy them. And at "booteek" prices, you're competing with highly focused, personality driven companies like Keeley, Fulltone, JHS, Wampler, Earthquaker, Bogner, the list is a mile long.

Let's be honest, Van Freaking Halen released a 5150 pedal right before the Palladium came out. It has a noise gate, AND it's $200. The Palladium is $300. I'd put the Palladium in a different class of course as far as the other features go. I wish them the best on the Palladium I ONLY say this to point out the competitive landscape. Bogner has amp-in-a-box pedals for the same or less. We're talking about THE Reinhold Bogner, legendary amp maker. There's an inherent credibility there.

For these reasons, whether a Made in USA label like the Palladium or Assembled in USA like the rest of them, it is simply essential, or the market will spit you out.
 
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