better for coil splitting??

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hello. im japanese. hope you can understand my english.

ive heared if you want to do coil splitting you might want a high out put pick up.
i dont know if its true or not

basic idea is
"from high out put(humbacker) to low out put(singl)"
if your hambacker pick up is low out put it will be
"from low out put to even lower out put"
so high out put pick ups work better for coil splitting.

this is what ive heared.
it does kind of make sense, but im not sure if its true or not.
 
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sweet thanks, ryo youre english was perfectly understandable, and i did not know that before, so thank you. cc it is. is that the correct diagram for coil splitting push pull?
 
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i dont know anything about how to wire the things. sorry

are you thinking of using push pull pot?
do you know there are push push pots?
if you push it its gonna be singl, and you push it again to make it back to hambacker again.
this will help you for quicker action, i think.
 
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yese ive heard of those, but it might get confusing and i might accidentally push it and start playing something in single coil and have it be screwed up and it could get confusing... and they are less comon and more expensive than push/pull. and dont you need special knobs for those? i remember seing one like that at guitar center.
 
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i think push/push pots are not more expensive, and you might not get confused.
once you push it, it stays there,
and you push it again, and it comes up.
just like knobs of pens.
and you dont need special knob either.

i think im right, but you can alwasy aske pros about it at guitar shop.
i think they will show you a real pot for better understanding.
 
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thank you. this might be what i end up doing.

so i need to get my cavity reshaped, buy a custom custom, make a hybrid with my friend's a2p, buy 2 push push pot and 2 cts pots, new wiring stuff (how do mallory caps stand?) new swich, jack, and some cosmetics stuff. SWEET!

but does anyone know if thats the right diagram for coil splitting? the one on the first post.
 
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metallicaxlxl said:
which is better for coil splitting in the bridge position? the aph-1 or custom custom? because im thinking of doing a hybrid for my bridge, and want to know which one i would want to put as my south coil since thats the one that will be used for the split. and this is the right diagram for coil split correct? thank you.
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Depends on the sound you want. Those will both sound different whether split or not. However, the pickup with the most output will have the most output as a single. And the diagram for the split is correct, but you can get even more sophisticated than that, like with a DPDT toggle for north-split/normal/south-split. There are diagrams on www.guitarelectronics.com. Have fun! :D
 
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Why not try a mini-toggle for splitting, that way theres no confusion or accidental mode change.I have one and things are quite convenient.Of course you have to get that extra hole drilled, but no biggie.

Also, how well a humbucker splits depends on how its designed, and not only on output/DC specs.My Dimarzio Virtual Hot PAF is 9.3K, medium output, and yet the split sounds are quite usable, though not true single.I also have a Bluesbucker which is basically one striong coil and one with negligible output, so the split sounds like a fat single coil:)
 
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metallicaxlxl said:
are you talking about these? if so, which one is it that has the switch between north and south?
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Probably the one that says "Single Coil (N) / Humbucker / Single Coil (S)". </sarcasm>
 
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nebucanazza - i dont really want a swtich because i might want to do some combinations of lets say... north neck, humbucker bridge or south neck north bridge, or all those possiblilities. just a lot more tones if i do it without a switch.

god damn i gotta get more sleep haha. thanks, ill try and make a diagram of that with the seymour things, just for my own reference, and you guys can tell me yay nor nay. ill be back in a few minutes with those.
 
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ohh crap, i was so confused about the whole thing, now i understand that twinreverb's diagrams are for switch. i thought those were where you should solder it on the push pull pot. stupid me!!

i dont really feel like drilling a hole in my guitar, AND, i dont have the adequate tools to do such a mod. is it possible to do such a split WITHOUt the switch?

haha i made the whole diagram thinking it was suppose to be on the push pull pot thing.

well since its made, can anyone tell me if this would do anything? work as anything?

 
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i likes to splits me legs and giv 'im a go m8
 
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JackTheLad said:
i likes to splits me legs and giv 'im a go m8
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do we have a pirate to english translator around here?

"i like to split my legs and give them a go", so we also need a riddle breaker dude

are you just stating that you like to split and play?
 
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metallicaxlxl said:
ohh crap, i was so confused about the whole thing, now i understand that twinreverb's diagrams are for switch. i thought those were where you should solder it on the push pull pot. stupid me!! i dont really feel like drilling a hole in my guitar, AND, i dont have the adequate tools to do such a mod. is it possible to do such a split WITHOUt the switch? haha i made the whole diagram thinking it was suppose to be on the push pull pot thing. well since its made, can anyone tell me if this would do anything? work as anything?
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Well ok, forgot. Uh, you could do just "north" or just "south" split using the push/pulls. You could also do a superswitch 5-way mod like some of the PRS's do. But my personal preference is toggles or push/pulls, although I did like the Jeff Beck signature HH guitar with the 5-way switch.

And don't call yourself stupid. You're not stupid.

I don't know which one of those pickups (APH1 vs Custom) is better sounding split, but I think the APH1 will sound more single-coil-vintage when split based on magnet and winding.

What guitar is this? I'm having a hard time figuring out what guitar you're talking about. If you have a volume and a tone, you might be able to wire them so that they're both push/pull, one for north split and one for south. I'm only suggesting having the north AND south splitting capabilities because you seem to want them as individual coils. Can you help me out?
 
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hmm yes of cource. i dont know why i always seem to leave out my guitar from all this, although one could take a quick look into my sig and see my only electric is a les paul, so yeah, its an epiphone '56 les paul custom, i currently have mini-humbuckers installed (sm-1 neck sm-2 bridge) i am going to get the bridge cavity reshapped to fit full humbuckers, and than install that bridge.

i guess i might install that switch, i just need to find a way to drill that hole, and i dont feel like paying 30 bucks for one tiny little hole.

having volume being north and tone being south would get way too confusing and i just dont find it to be too good of an idea, so the switch would be the best way to go.
 
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