Big Muff Pi 2

[GuitarStv]

I'm interested!

Seems to have all the regular Big Muff goodness, but a little more mid-range . . . which has always been my complaint about the regular Big Muff. Love regular Big Muff sounds, but it kinda disappears with a band. I was interested in the Deluxe Big Muff because of the mid boost, but it's a gigantic pedal and I don't want to dedicate that kind of space on my board. This little guy might be the ticket.

 

[Chistopher]

Its another JHS collab

 

[Hsb]

Watched a couple vids of this and thought it was pretty interesting. I have never found a fuzz that I liked, but this one sounds pretty good. The fuzzes Ive played either dont play well with my amp or my pickup choice, thinking its more the amp.

Just realized there are two sizes of the pedal, the giant one available thru JHS and the smaller one as above, which is not listed on JHS's site, but can be found on Sweetwater, etc

 

[jeremy]

stomp under foot makes a ton of great muff style pedals, maybe check them out

 

[Chistopher]

I'm a big Wren and Cuff enthusiast

 

[Chistopher]

I got their De La Riva and it can do just about any Muff

 

[80's_Metal]

Also "does it doom" makes some thick fuzz pedals in various styles.

 

[Securb]

It seems like EHX is playing catch up and trying to roll out the mods other builders have added to the Muff circuit to make it more usable.

 

[Mincer]

It seems like EHX is playing catch up and trying to roll out the mods other builders have added to the Muff circuit to make it more usable.

They could have gotten into that 20 years ago and headed everyone off.

 

[Chistopher]

Now that I've taken a look at the back story and circuit, here's my take

EHX back in 78 decided that BMP's needed to be made from op amps because transistors were too expensive (or something of that nature). EHX had two or more guys working on their own seperate takes of the op amp muff. The BMP2 is one of the designs that didn't make it. It uses two dual op amps, and is the naive approach of how a person of ordinary skill in the art of circuitry would design an op amp muff. Take a BMP and replace all four transistors with op amp gain stages. That's it. So clean boost, followed by two cascaded soft clipping stages, followed by a clean boost stage to recover volume lost from the tone control.

This circuit lost out to the Op Amp Muff as we know it today, which uses two clean boost op amp stages into a soft clipping op amp gain stage. Most of the distortion comes from the op amps clipping.

 

[GuitarStv]

They could have gotten into that 20 years ago and headed everyone off.

I feel like the deluxe big muff releases were kinda the EHX answer to all the modded muffs out there. You choose either the base sovtek or NY big muff pi sound throw in a noise gate if you want it, and then get that circuit combined with a fully dial-able mid boost (with adjustable width) where you can set the frequency (or even use a foot controller to sweep it).

With these you can dial in most traditional big muff sounds and a cover a lot of the mod ground with them. I just don't like that they're gigantic pedals.

 

[Mincer]

That's just it, it is hard to combine them all in a pedal that's small. I think most people set and forget fuzz. It is fun to experiment, but once you find the sound that works for you, you are set.

 

[xxxplorer]

The one I ordered for my son for Christmas just showed up. He's a bass player and likes knarly fuzz and big pedals lol. So I snagged the big one for him. I will see how it sounds on both guitar and bass on Christmas day. As much as I'd like to sneak in and try it lol... I want to be as surprised... or disapointed as him lol.