Bigsby and Tuning

Re: Bigsby and Tuning

With all due respect to the others, 2 things should be added.

1. While products like nut sauce do work, simply rubbing pencil lead on the bottom of the nut slot is endlessly cheaper and time tested.

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2. In over 25 years, I have never seen a properly cut nut need any form of lubricant to avoid going out of tune in any concievable real world scenario, including insane Floyd whammyage with locking tuners instead of a locking nut. If you´re getting tuning issues stemmuing from the nut, the cause is always either an improper cut or long term wear. Neither is IMO an excuse to sell someone a 10$ bottle of funkly fluid that will at best only mitigate the problem, but can never alleviate it.

I regard nut lubricants as a crutch for people who do not have easy access to a competent tech, and expensive ones as snake oil capitalizing on the ignorance of teh customer and the incompetence of most of the people that like to call themselves "techs".

In my professional opinion the only reason there is to pay anything at all for nut lubricants (especially more than a few cents in your lifetime for a simple pencil) is being swayed by flashy marketing and the parroting of other people that simply don´t understand the subject as well as they think they do.

The same holds true for roller bridges being "necessary" in Bigsby guitars according to some.. Again, total hogwash, just get your bridge saddles cut and deburred by a professional and save money in the long run ;)

I don´t judge people for using nut sauce or similar products, they just want their guitar to stay in tune and every store in the world will gladly sell you some without telling you there are dirt cheap alternatives. But if someone "needs"it, that tells me they either don´t know or they can't afford /refuse to adequately pay a competent tech. And if they refuse to pay a competent tech but would rather use a crutch-product, they entirely deserve to waste money in this fashion. Everyone else just needs to try the pencil and /or find a tech worthy of the title.

I agree that a properly cut nut is essential.

While you make some very good points, I must disagree with you regarding the use of Big Bends Nut Sauce. One of the main reasons to use Nut Sauce, even on a properly cut nut, is that it MAINTAINS the health of the nut (and saddles, too). Over time, a properly cut nut will become worn, regardless of the composition. Be it bone, brass or graphite, your guitar's nut will benefit from Nut Sauce. The same is true for saddles, which can become deeply grooved over time and develop burrs causing string breakage and intonation issues. While pencil lead is an easy solution", it simply does not provide the protection or the lubrication of Nut Sauce. It turns your nice white bone nut an ugly gray, and it gets all over everything. Nut Sauce is fast and easy to use and stays where you put it, and will minimize wear to the string slots. And you only need to use a tiny, tiny amount. So yes, it costs more than a No. 2 pencil, but the cost is certainly not extravagant. Pretty good value in my book.

Not every nut requires re-cutting or replacement. Not every player can afford constant nut maintenance; not every tech can get it right the first time (or ever, for that matter); not every player even has access to a tech. I've used Nut Sauce for more than ten years, on a variety of guitars with excellent short and long-term results.

I simply cannot recommend this product highly enough. It delivers everything it promises. It's better than anything I've used for nut and saddle maintenance in my 50 year career.

Bill
 
Re: Bigsby and Tuning

Big Bends Nut Sauce is your friend; use it on both nut and saddles. And consider locking tuners.

Bill

That was the answer to all of my problems. Big Bends Nut Sauce lasts for years just a little bit does the job. The tuners were also a big help.
 
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That was the answer to all of my problems. Big Bends Nut Sauce lasts for years just a little bit does the job. The tuners were also a big help.

I agree that Big Bends Nut Sauce is great, but their markup is insane. Go to a decent hardware store, find some PTFE gel lubricant, cut out the middle man, and save a ton.
 
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Hmm, I will have to give the stuff a shot–is it just for electrics or also acoustics?
 
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Hmm, I will have to give the stuff a shot–is it just for electrics or also acoustics?

Both but you are not doing deep bends or trem work on an acoustic so it is kind of a waste unless you have a string hanging up on your nut. Stew mac also has a less expensive product that works as good called Guitar Grease. I use Big Bends because I like saying "nut sauce" as often as possible.
 
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Both but you are not doing deep bends or trem work on an acoustic so it is kind of a waste unless you have a string hanging up on your nut. Stew mac also has a less expensive product that works as good called Guitar Grease. I use Big Bends because I like saying "nut sauce" as often as possible.

Who says I don't bend deep on my acoustic?! :soapbox: jk I will say, I get a killer blues tone out of my Eastman E8D with a Bill Lawrence A300 through my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and do some bends ;) but nothing to require nut sauce :bigok:

Sorry for going off topic but that reminded me of these bridges

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I have just modded a friend's custom thinline tele partscaster that has a Bigsby. I removed the the bridge and replaced it with a Schaller roller bridge. I had to shim the neck for more angle. The guitar stays in tune and has more sustain. I also removed and replaced the SD vintage tele bridge pickup with a SD Five-Two which I must say, sounds exquisite. My personal opinion is the bridge should be roller saddle bridge when using a Bigsby. The improvements are phenomenal.
 
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